[HacktionLab] PROPOSAL: Re: general proposal to network x

Garcon du Monde gdm at fifthhorseman.net
Wed Jan 12 14:20:04 GMT 2011


hi,

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:34:41PM +0000, Garcon du Monde wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:51:14AM +0000, startx wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:38:00 +0000
> > mark <mark at aktivix.org> wrote:
> > > I used to be an admin of that site and I know that it can, and
> > > frequently does, record IPs and user_agent strings.
> > 
> > right. i am normally not known as somebody who jumps in to defend
> > indymedia.org.uk, however, what are you spreading here is FUD 
> > ( and that is where i file it under), unless you know something nobody 
> > here is aware of ( and afaik there are quite a few ex-imc uk admins on
> > this list). 
> 
> Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. 
> 
> i agree 100% with startx. 
> 
> i consider the actions of mark here to be as bad as if not worse than
> those of pc mark kennedy (in fact, maybe we have just unmasked the other
> undercover?). 

just to clarify, i do not mean to say that mark (at aktivix.org) is a
police infiltrator/agitator. so i apologise if people interpreted my
statement like that.

i do, however, think that sowing FUD is highly despicable and divisive
of the movement. the rest of my email stands.

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> PROPOSAL: mark at aktivix.org is removed from this mailing list. and banned
> from joining or posting for a period of 6 months minimum.
> 
> DEADLINE: 48 hours (i.e. this time on friday)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

one additional point is that i am happy to withdraw this proposal if mark
retracts his comments.

> > > I'm intending to go to a meeting on Saturday and talk to people about
> > > on-line security. I'm not going to stand there and pretend that
> > > publishing on indymedia.org.uk will not result in people's IP and
> > > user_agent details being recorded, when I know that to be false.
> > 
> > FUD is not getting better by repeating  it. if this is how you run your
> > workshops i won't recommend them.
> 
> i am also planning to be at network x on the weekend. i am happy to
> discuss any technicalities relating to various indymedia web sites and
> hosting, or any aspect of online security in general, with anyone.

solidarity,

	--gdm

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