[HacktionLab] this is mental

[Charlie Harvey]

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On 11/07/14 09:34, Gareth Coleman wrote:
> No, it's ok, I've written to the nice Mr Blunkett so I'm sure he will
> take his constituency views forward.
> 
> It seems mad to me that they still think it's important to pretend its
> all nice and legal and governed when we all know that GCHQ is a law unto
> itself and will only be limited by funding and technical constraints.
> 
> I mean, if they've been happily ignoring the law for years why does it
> matter what the laws say? Surely just to reassure middle england?

Hi,

I imagine it will be partly to do with outsourcing the risk to the
private sector. Seems to happen a lot these days.

If you can compel the ISPs to retain data in bulk then you don't have to
spend as much money on storage at GCHQ -- or you can spend it on storing
different things. I also think it is part of a bigger plan of
normalising spying and letting other agencies use the sort of
capabilities that were previously reserved for the spooks.



Cheers,



> On 11 Jul 2014 09:16, "Alan Dawson" <aland at burngreave.net
> <mailto:aland at burngreave.net>> wrote:
> 
>     On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 08:29:39AM +0100, Mick - Clearerchannel.org
>     wrote:
>     > This is all over the news and mental.
>     >
>     > I've done the below what else can we do at this point?
> 
>     I'd feel very negative about this. The mass media was full of the usual
>     suspects telling us how this is required to defend against paedophiles,
>     criminals and terrorists.
> 
>     The LibDems spin it as a win, as they have put a time limit on it until
>     2016, and say that data retention and RIPA will have a review then.
>     This will be after the next election.
> 
>     The Tories and the Labour party are both pro data retention and have
>     been trying to push these things through for years with the
>     "Interception Modernisation Project" and the "Communication Capabilities
>     Development Program".
> 
>     They are also looking forward to a review, in 2016.  After they have
>     majority government and can increase the range of the level of
>     surveillance.
> 
>     The legislation has a new section, "extra-territoriality" where UK can
>     issue warrants for data requests to foreign companies, that may involve
>     non UK citizens not in the UK. ( which I read to mean anybody
>     anywhere ).
> 
>     This will enter UK law.
> 
>     Direct Action is the only solution. More crypto, tor hidden services,
>     https everywhere, data decetralisation.
> 
>     Regards,
> 
>     Alan Dawson
> 
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