[HacktionLab] Activist friendly web/tech services
naomi
naomi at aktivix.org
Thu Oct 13 18:07:48 UTC 2016
Hi Sean,
I would absolutely love to chat with you about this, if you want to
reply off list. I am open to your viewpoint, clearly it is working for
you - I'm envious!
In my experience it's buggy as hell, new ones pop up with almost every
upgrade, and contributing bugfixes is well-nigh impossible due to
complexity of the development workflow - I've put in a few simple and
obvious PRs which never got accepted because every time it was about to,
the codebase had changed under it (yet the bug remained).
These days i don't bother trying to fix bugs, which is a real shame as I
have the skills and the motivation to help other users but I was put off
by these experiences of wasting my and others' time.
Importing donations is a total no-no - I had to write a module just to
do so, whilst Civi has an interface for importing them which had options
for all the things we wanted to do, it just didn't do them.
Are your systems pretty simple? I get the impression that the basic
stuff might work OK, but if you try and do anything more complex, it's
like https://twitter.com/computerfact/status/778271435357822980
Naomi
On 13/10/16 20:49, sean wrote:
> "my time is spent fiddling about with CiviCRM, which you should avoid
> at all costs."
>
> hmm, I support 50+ civicrms, I wouldn't avoid it, if you're running a
> busy organisation it does all the work
>
> On 13 October 2016 at 15:16, Kate Dawson <k4t at 3msg.es
> <mailto:k4t at 3msg.es>> wrote:
>
> Hi world,
>
> If we're adverting our shops here then...
>
> webarchitects.coop <http://webarchitects.coop> are a workers
> cooperative providing hosting for
> all sorts of people, including activist organisations.
> We have a cooperative model that allow customers to become members
> also,
> so they can become involved in decision making and development
> directions.
>
> Hosting is based in the UK or Iceland, depending on costs, and legal
> issues you think you may face.
>
> All hosting is based powered by "goodenergy" in the UK from
> renewables or
> hydrothermal in Iceland.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kate Dawson
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:45:55PM +0100, Charlie Harvey wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > https://ox4.org does Drupal (6 & 7) hosting for activist and
> community
> > groups, mostly in Oxford.
> >
> > Its on a vm, which makes it less secure than some other services
> against
> > cops or other state functionaries.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > On 13/10/16 12:17, Marcus Valentine wrote:
> > > Mike Harris and I run https://xtreamlab.net/ for this kind of
> thing. We
> > > have a wordpress and drupal network installs. Users who
> require minimal
> > > technical support get a good (ie cheap) deal. If people require
> > > significant support we need to charge for our time.
> > >
> > > Best
> > >
> > > Marcus
> > >
> > > On 13/10/2016 11:43, Brent wrote:
> > >> Hi
> > >>
> > >> Good to see plans for barncamp, I enjoyed the last; might
> come again.
> > >> Bit busy a the mo, but will look out for jobs.
> > >>
> > >> Hope it's ok if I throw a question out;
> > >>
> > >> There's a couple of groups I know with floundering
> websites/digital
> > >> lives. Is there any such thing as an activist-friendly 'full
> service'
> > >> website provision (and, possibly, email and mailing list)?
> I.e. the
> > >> administration over and above hosting, and cheap, ticking
> > >> privacy/security boxes? Or perhaps suitable, established
> professionals
> > >> to take on the admin with current hosting setups. Perhaps a
> robot that
> > >> doesn't eat or pay bills :) The sites are currently drupal,
> but I'm
> > >> thinking towards whatever.
> > >>
> > >> I know it would be ideal to have more user engagement, diy,
> volunteering
> > >> etc., and sure there's room for discussion here- maybe this
> isn't a good
> > >> way to go- but realistically, I'm not seeing the more informal
> > >> approaches working out sustainably, here and other
> smallgroups. So
> > >> thought I'd ask around for options or thoughts...
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Brent
> > >
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