[HacktionLab] Activist friendly web/tech services

Thu Oct 13 21:22:02 UTC 2016


El 13/10/2016 a les 19:07, naomi ha escrit:
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> I would absolutely love to chat with you about this, if you want to
> reply off list. I am open to your viewpoint, clearly it is working for
> you - I'm envious!
>
> In my experience it's buggy as hell, new ones pop up with almost every
> upgrade, and contributing bugfixes is well-nigh impossible due to
> complexity of the development workflow - I've put in a few simple and
> obvious PRs which never got accepted because every time it was about
> to, the codebase had changed under it (yet the bug remained).
>
> These days i don't bother trying to fix bugs, which is a real shame as
> I have the skills and the motivation to help other users but I was put
> off by these experiences of wasting my and others' time.
>
> Importing donations is a total no-no - I had to write a module just to
> do so, whilst Civi has an interface for importing them which had
> options for all the things we wanted to do, it just didn't do them.
>
> Are your systems pretty simple? I get the impression that the basic
> stuff might work OK, but if you try and do anything more complex, it's
> like https://twitter.com/computerfact/status/778271435357822980
>
lol!
>
> Naomi
>
>
>
> On 13/10/16 20:49, sean wrote:
>> "my time is spent fiddling about with CiviCRM, which you should avoid
>> at all costs."
>>
>> hmm, I support 50+ civicrms, I wouldn't avoid it, if you're running a
>> busy organisation it does all the work
>>
>> On 13 October 2016 at 15:16, Kate Dawson <k4t at 3msg.es
>> <mailto:k4t at 3msg.es>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi world,
>>
>>     If we're adverting our shops here then...
>>
>>     webarchitects.coop <http://webarchitects.coop> are a workers
>>     cooperative providing hosting for
>>     all sorts of people, including activist organisations.
>>     We have a cooperative model that allow customers to become
>>     members also,
>>     so they can become involved in decision making and development
>>     directions.
>>
>>     Hosting is based in the UK or Iceland, depending on costs, and legal
>>     issues you think you may face.
>>
>>     All hosting is based powered by "goodenergy" in the UK from
>>     renewables or
>>     hydrothermal in Iceland.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Kate Dawson
>>
>>     On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:45:55PM +0100, Charlie Harvey wrote:
>>     > Hi,
>>     >
>>     > https://ox4.org does Drupal (6 & 7) hosting for activist and
>>     community
>>     > groups, mostly in Oxford.
>>     >
>>     > Its on a vm, which makes it less secure than some other
>>     services against
>>     > cops or other state functionaries.
>>     >
>>     > Cheers,
>>     >
>>     > On 13/10/16 12:17, Marcus Valentine wrote:
>>     > > Mike Harris and I run https://xtreamlab.net/ for this kind of
>>     thing. We
>>     > > have a wordpress and drupal network installs. Users who
>>     require minimal
>>     > > technical support get a good (ie cheap) deal.  If people require
>>     > > significant support we need to charge for our time.
>>     > >
>>     > > Best
>>     > >
>>     > > Marcus
>>     > >
>>     > > On 13/10/2016 11:43, Brent wrote:
>>     > >> Hi
>>     > >>
>>     > >> Good to see plans for barncamp, I enjoyed the last; might
>>     come again.
>>     > >> Bit busy a the mo, but will look out for jobs.
>>     > >>
>>     > >> Hope it's ok if I throw a question out;
>>     > >>
>>     > >> There's a couple of groups I know with floundering
>>     websites/digital
>>     > >> lives. Is there any such thing as an activist-friendly 'full
>>     service'
>>     > >> website provision (and, possibly, email and mailing list)?
>>     I.e. the
>>     > >> administration over and above hosting, and cheap, ticking
>>     > >> privacy/security boxes? Or perhaps suitable, established
>>     professionals
>>     > >> to take on the admin with current hosting setups. Perhaps a
>>     robot that
>>     > >> doesn't eat or pay bills :)  The sites are currently drupal,
>>     but I'm
>>     > >> thinking towards whatever.
>>     > >>
>>     > >> I know it would be ideal to have more user engagement, diy,
>>     volunteering
>>     > >> etc., and sure there's room for discussion here- maybe this
>>     isn't a good
>>     > >> way to go- but realistically, I'm not seeing the more informal
>>     > >> approaches working out sustainably, here and other
>>     smallgroups. So
>>     > >> thought I'd ask around for options or thoughts...
>>     > >>
>>     > >> Thanks,
>>     > >> Brent
>>     > >
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