[HacktionLab] We can finally build our own media - link to video presentation
Mike Harris
mike at mbharris.co.uk
Tue Aug 1 10:06:04 UTC 2023
That's kind of the point, there weren't really mistakes as such. And I
do think your critique on your talk was a little reductionist Jay, which
I guess is fair, because it was just a talk. What I hope to cover is
something that may help us understand how to do things differently in
the future.
As I experienced it, the main problem was people (especially those more
on the journalism side of things) drifting away from the project for
myriad reasons, but often to get paid work, and leaving just a few techs
"in charge" of a platform with increasing less good content. Secondly,
and more importantly, it was the rise of Facebook, Twitter et al; the
new generation of activists, especially in the environment movement were
not engaging as much with alternative platforms (and tech) as did the
previous generation of activists; Indymedia was largely built in the
ambit of the anti-globalisation/capitalism movement, and that out of
things like Reclaim the Streets: it was very anti-capitalism and having
independent control over our tools. Thirdly, Indymedia just couldn't
keep up with the technical innovations and modern look and feel of the
aforementioned mainstream social media platforms, and this put people off.
All that followed after, with arguments, paranoia, differences of
opinion, and people debating whether it's okay to publish an interview
with Gilat Atzmon or not, I feel was the fall-out from an increasingly
less popular and crumbling project, and not really the real underlying
reasons: the symptom rather than the cause in other words.
Mike.
On 26/07/2023 17:03, Jay Baker wrote:
>
> Haha, yes let's not do that -- if you've seen my HacktionLab
> presentation you'll know how keen I am to learn from the mistakes of
> IndyMedia!
>
> I'm really fascinated by the possibilities of the Kbin structure to
> host a Mutu-style network for UK information and news.
>
> If you, Sam (or anyone else reading!), would like to discuss this with
> me directly, feel free -- I'm conscious of potentially clogging up the
> list! 😀
>
> *Jay Baker*
> */Pronouns: he/they
> /*
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> /*
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> ------- Original Message -------
> On Tuesday, July 25th, 2023 at 18:21, sam at bristolwireless.net
> sam at bristolwireless.net wrote:
>
>
> just be careful not to accidentally re-invent indymedia!
>
> I've found hosting kbin on elest.io <http://elest.io> fairly easy.
>
> I've been playing with a service https://kbin.world that attempts to
> redirect you to the appropriate community/instance depending on where
> you are in the world. It's quite large geographic areas at the moment,
> but I could try and get hold of some regional IP address localisation
> for the UK.
>
> 2p
>
> Sam
>
> uoting Jay Baker jaybaker at mediaactivist.com:
>
> Hey Sam, thanks for this -- I'm a big fan and user of the
> fediverse,
> including Kbin. I'll admit that my gut reaction to your
> message was
> "Ah, that's a totally different thing, it wouldn't work..."
> and then
> as I've thought about it more, I've found your suggestion to
> actually be quite inspired! Maybe an instance dedicated to local
> autonomous media with each locality running a different magazine
> would fit really well! So thanks! If folks are interested in
> discussing running such an instance, let's talk!
>
> Jay Baker
> Pronouns: he/they
> Website: MediaActivist.com <http://MediaActivist.com>
>
> Other links: https://allmylinks.com/mediaactivist
>
> Sent with Proton Mail secure email.
>
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Saturday, July 15th, 2023 at 17:28, sam at bristolwireless.net
> sam at bristolwireless.net wrote:
>
> I've been playing with Kbin a bit recently. It might be a
> good fit,
> where local communities are a 'magazine'
>
> Kbin is a Fediverse version of a threaded /voting platform
> like
> Reddit. It interoperates with Lemmy.
>
> This is a worldnews aggregator built with kbin for example:
> https://fledd.it/
>
> Thanks
>
> Sam
>
> Jay Baker:
>
> As I couldn't make it on the day, if anyone has
> any questions about
> Mutu / local autonomous media based on the
> presentation, ask away!
> I also think there are possibilities to
> incorporate it into the
> Radar site perhaps, so Radar folks feel free to
> give me a shot too!
>
> For sure if folks start to set up such a network we
> can help with
> syndicating the events. It's something we already do
> with other sites.
>
> I think it would be great if people start a mutu-like
> network of
> independent media collectives. As I mentioned at
> Hacktionlab please
> don't use spip (I make a point of never crapping on
> any software
> platform - but in this case I make an exception - its
> security is
> flawed by design). Not that I think the particular
> software platform
> is important in this case, it's the network of people.
> Start simple.
> Something like set of Wordpress sites, and one
> pointing to them and
> aggregating some content, would do it.
>
> Solidarity,
>
> ekes
>
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