[imc-uk-emergency] IRC logs from last 15 hours on #uk

Chris Croome chris at croome.net
Mon Jun 2 10:54:35 BST 2003


Hi

Ana asked for these:

20:03 <@caffeinated_pingouin> I can't publish through the news wire .. someone can publish that :
20:03 <@ionnek_cgi> police breaking into l'usine
20:04 < maqui> whos speaks french reporting live the rsaid in usine
20:04 < maqui> in stream theyre breacking in
20:06 <@caffeinated_pingouin> A journalist got his knee destroyed by a tear gas grenade. He is now in the hospital. During his transfer, the police throw mocking and injuring remaques toward the injured 
20:06 <@caffeinated_pingouin> I speak french .. 
20:06 < maqui> can u go to the stream?
20:06 <@caffeinated_pingouin> do you have the link
20:07 < ronya> just uploaded report on journalist give u url in a sec
20:07 < maqui> opingouin http://radio.uk1.indymedia.org:8100/geneve.mp3
20:07 < ronya> trannslated and url etc all in uk wire
20:07 <@caffeinated_pingouin> sorry can't read mp3 .. I have the most terrible computer
20:07 <@ionnek_cgi> will put police breaking into l'usine in timeline.
20:08 < ronya> unfortunately i cant get radio streaming or it takes time to get things uploaded
20:08 <@caffeinated_pingouin> all right it's working 
20:08 <@caffeinated_pingouin> but it's Italien
20:08 < ronya> radio lausanne is now broken but had live from usine now back on
20:09 <@caffeinated_pingouin> Maqui .. it's italien ... is it going to be french 
20:10 < ronya> its life at lausanne radio in english
20:10 <@caffeinated_pingouin> all right ... :) that's great 
20:11 < ronya> now changing to french
20:11 <@caffeinated_pingouin> ??? no italien 
20:11 <@caffeinated_pingouin> at least my version
20:11 <@ionnek_cgi> ronya listen to the radio thats great!
20:12 <@ionnek_cgi> l'usine is NOW being raided, they are trying to get into the media center inside l'usine.
20:12 < maqui> radio just said theyre inside but bot in the media centre rooms
20:12 < ona> yes i'm looking at that video stream
20:13 < ronya> police is inside the usine now people are whispering german police 
20:13 < ona> they say police are dressed as normal protestors
20:13 < ronya> fuckers!
20:13 < ona> half italian / half english...
20:13 < ona> is this useful or are you doing sothing else?
20:13 < ronya> are u speaking to me?
20:13 < ona> to all
20:15 < maqui> people has been badly beate in the usine but not in the video/radio rooms
20:15 -!- zak [~zak at host213-122-101-215.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #uk
20:16 < ronya> ok finally url journalist injured translation in wire ffor timeline 20.33 url: http://www.uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=70365&group=webcast
20:16 < ona> ah this person tallking on video stream doesn't know that i think
20:16 < maqui> 25 people trapped inside media centre
20:16 < ronya> shite this not fun!
20:16 < ona> any how to contact them inside?
20:17 < zcat> radio says live stream best protection 4 them 
20:17 < zcat> but droped in volume
20:18 < ona> hey hi zcat, hadn't seen you
20:18 < maqui> zcat tel ionnek to add they were undercover police and that they've beaten heavily two people inside the building (confirmed)
20:18 < zcat> thats cause were on irc no vid hehe
20:18 < ronya> confirmed in imc ch  police is inside usine now: http://switzerland.indymedia.org/fr/2003/06/10264.shtml
20:18 < zcat> am not at home
20:19 < maqui> k zcat
20:19 < ronya> 21.07 
20:19 < zcat> radio peeps locked into room
20:19 < zcat> geting worried
20:20 < ona> maqui you in contact with ppl in there?
20:20 < zcat> but still casting
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20:22 < maqui> no
20:23 < zcat> shit gone very quiet
20:23 < zcat> maybe connection gone any one else listening to it?
20:24 <@caffeinated_pingouin> 30 -40 polices entered the building . they are looking like protestor
20:24 < ona> i'm listening to the video stream
20:24 < ona> (difficult to watch & do other things at same time)
20:24 < zcat> ok i got it again unfamillar puta
20:24 < ona> what puta?
20:25 < zcat> a friends runin win 98
20:25 <@ionnek_cgi> ronya watch the swiss newswire there should be a report about l'usine soon
20:25 < zcat> goin home to mine soon
20:25 < ona> in italy girl is saying they're puzzle police are there because they're doing nothing illegal
20:25 < ronya> computer ona
20:26 <@ionnek_cgi> the dispatch channel is still in touch with people in the usine media center.
20:26 < ona> it feels strange to  be locked inside that room, htere is not enough room for all there
20:26 <@ionnek_cgi> anyone knows where the VAAAG is?
20:26 <@ionnek_cgi> please?
20:26 -!- zcat [~jirc at 213-152-53-44.dsl.eclipse.net.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20:28 < ona> it's one of the camps
20:28 < ronya> in annemasse i belive
20:28 < ona> it's near the runway
20:28 < ona> you're right ronya
20:28 < ona> definetely in annemasse
20:28 < ona> country: france
20:28 < ona> actually a suburb of geneva, but actually france
20:28 < maqui> ona watching the video?
20:28 < ona> yes
20:29 < maqui> and what u see
20:29 < maqui> cant with this computa :(
20:29 < ona> ppl seem just like in an office, if it wasn't for ppl not at the computers but wandering around
20:29 < ona> girl tqalking and talking, keeps they're not afraid
20:29 < ona> but keeps voice low
20:30 < ona> keeps saying there is no reason for attacking the centre
20:30 < ona> or for an attack from police
20:30 < ona> because it's just a media centre, no action, nothing illegal there
20:30 < ona> not even dangerous people
20:30 <@ionnek_cgi> ronya are you looking at swiss indy newswire?
20:30 <@ionnek_cgi> please there should be a rpot in german i want to translate it.
20:30 < ona> what goes there is just sth about freedom of speech etc
20:31 < ona> but it's very obvious that the camera person can't get out of the room
20:31 < ona> no one can get out
20:31 < ona> ppl wandering around
20:31 < ona> and they don't seem to know who is police, who is not
20:32 < ona> because police are almost in bb cloths
20:32 < maqui> info: police is taking people out of usine now
20:32 <@ionnek_cgi> Listen. 
20:32 < ona> camera goes around the same room, paning same room all the time
20:32 <@ionnek_cgi> Can someone find a number at the guardian. 
20:32 <@ionnek_cgi> we'll try to write a press release. 
20:32 <@ionnek_cgi> go on.
20:33 < maqui> i call andi
20:33 < ona> any news from dave?
20:33 <@yossarian> ona nothing yet
20:34 < maqui> no im txting him but no reply for hours
20:34 < ona> shit
20:34 < maqui> no reply from andi
20:34 < ona> any one texted pennie?
20:34 < ona> gonna txt now
20:35 < ona> stream: police still in building (usine)
20:35 < ona> they're in the stais
20:35 < ona> stairs
20:35 < ona> we're locked in indymedia centre
20:35 <@chrisc> http://www.guardian.co.uk/gu_contacts/0,5816,180767,00.html
20:37 < ona> they say 'pse tell us if sth goes wrong with stream'
20:37 < ona> but how???
20:37 < maqui> left message to andi's answerphone and mobile
20:37 < ona> guardian 
20:37 < ona> Tel: 020-7278 2332
20:37 < maqui> ana they know it works someone told them in channel g8
20:37 < ona> police going around the house checking everything
20:38 < ona> so if i go to g8 i can talk to them?
20:38 < ona> they say things look calmer now
20:38 < ona> but every body who leaves the building are checked by police
20:41 <@ionnek_cgi> am calling the newsdesk
20:44 < maqui> legal team arrived at usine
20:44 <@ionnek_cgi> tkd to newsdesk of guardian.
20:45 <@ionnek_cgi> will see if they call back. 
20:45 < maqui> good
20:45 < maqui> andi tried it when the diaz raid and they didn't give a fuck then ...
20:45 < maqui> i guess they wont make the same mistake this time
20:45 <@ionnek_cgi> shall we call the sun then?
20:45 < maqui> jooooking!
20:46 <@vlo> http://radio.uk1.indymedia.org:8100/geneve.mp3
20:47 <@ionnek_cgi> it would be good to have a NAME of a journalist that we know. 
20:47 <@ionnek_cgi> do we?
20:47 < maqui> ionnek are u listening the streaming ... the geezer speaks german
20:48 < maqui> hey: im listening POLICE IS IN
20:48 <@caffeinated_pingouin> they want to put stuff in the cinema 
20:48 < ona> video stream has gone down
20:48 < maqui> we need a german speaker
20:48 < maqui> police shouting in german
20:48 <@caffeinated_pingouin> THE police is speaking french
20:48 < maqui> ok sorry whats goin on
20:48 <@caffeinated_pingouin> They want to put stuff in the cinema 
20:48 < ona> looks the server is down
20:49 <@caffeinated_pingouin> control ...
20:49 < maqui> pingoiun can u translate here
20:49 <@caffeinated_pingouin> french in the background it's very ghard to understand
20:49 < ona> is there a french speaker on the chat?
20:49 < ona> do we need one?
20:49 <@caffeinated_pingouin> yes I speak french
20:49 < ona> if we need one  sprout is happy to do
20:49 < ona> ok then
20:50 <@caffeinated_pingouin> Summary : I/m listen to the radio station ... the police came in I think
20:51 <@caffeinated_pingouin> THE police is speaking french
20:51 <@caffeinated_pingouin> They want to put stuff in the cinema 
20:51 <@vlo> adn german
20:52 <@caffeinated_pingouin> they are taking names of people (spelling)
20:52 <@caffeinated_pingouin> date of birth
20:54 <@caffeinated_pingouin> police ask if they are speaking french
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20:56 < ronya> ..
20:56 < maqui> ionnek!
20:56 <@caffeinated_pingouin> can't hear anything anymore .. but they are still wispering in th ebackground
20:57 <@caffeinated_pingouin> nothing anymore
20:58 < ronya> police has cleared roomn of everything now
20:58 < maqui> i think they cleared the room
20:58 < ronya> voices are returning now
20:58 < maqui> ionnek !
20:58 <@ionnek_cgi> yes.
20:58 <@ionnek_cgi> guardian called back.
20:58 < maqui> have u updated this
20:59 <@ionnek_cgi> have you checked the site.
20:59 <@ionnek_cgi> no havent#
20:59 <@caffeinated_pingouin> which channel ?? it is still out for me ...
20:59 < maqui> yep 3o dseconds ago
20:59 < ronya> sounds like demo outside from main irc now
20:59 <@ionnek_cgi> maqui tell me what to put in cgi. 
20:59 < ona> uisine: theyre indentifying everyone in the room now
20:59 <@ionnek_cgi> in which room
21:00 <@ionnek_cgi> the media room?
21:00 < maqui> they broke into idy video/radio room
21:00 <@ionnek_cgi> when.
21:00 < maqui> they were indentyfuying everyone 
21:00 < maqui> and now it seems the room is cleared
21:00 < ronya> ploice beating pople inside usine now
21:00 < maqui> that happened 10 mins ago
21:00 < maqui> ronya who says that
21:00 <@caffeinated_pingouin> all right it's back for me too
21:01 < ronya> from main irc #g8 and from what they can hear from radio streaming
21:01 <@ionnek_cgi> "broke"?
21:01 < ronya> press flashes at door press outside 
21:02 < maqui> two ambulances left usine
21:02 -!- maqui_away [~chatzilla at 81.2.110.155] has joined #uk
21:03 < maqui> what maqui is not away
21:03 -!- maqui_away is now known as zcat
21:03 < maqui> whats goin on zcat
21:03 < zcat> u left it maqui away
21:03 < zcat> when last on
21:06 <@ionnek_cgi> maqui ok with update?
21:06 < maqui> dopnt show yet
21:07 < maqui> now shows. can u strat with "police boke into uindependent media room where radio abd vide been streamed
21:07 < maqui> but kool
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21:08 < ronya> serious situation police broke in bz plain clothes officers with shock grenades and beating people 
21:09 < maqui> i saw that ronysa but people is questioning that information
21:09 < ronya> eyewitness rep 8 cops in demo clothes smashing chain to enter building
21:09 < maqui> noone in that room  knows <guest>
21:10 <@yossarian> what is bz?
21:11 < zcat> do you want me to do anything
21:11 < maqui> yoss what?
21:11 < ronya> bz i guess a name for swizz police the only sign to be distinguished from demons is a ornage armaband
21:11 < maqui> ahhh
21:11 < ronya> swizz special forces 
21:11 < maqui> actually confirmed now that police used contusion grenades to enter the building
21:12 < maqui> ... eyewitness account in #g8
21:12 <@yossarian> ok don't say that in other channels
21:12 < maqui> so let be cautious with that one
21:13 < ronya> agree
21:14 < zcat> radio seems pretty calm now
21:14 <@yossarian> getting more heated from what i can herar
21:14 < ronya> no police is asking them to take theri things
21:14 < maqui> someone just said in radio "thi is getting out of conttrol" but then switched to french
21:15 <@caffeinated_pingouin> Radio summary :
21:16 <@caffeinated_pingouin> The police (I think ) is asking someone if this person gave the same Stephane S.
21:16 < ronya> i mean its unclear how situ is at the moment varies from moment to moment
21:16 < zcat> radio gone i think
21:16 < ronya> yeaph
21:16 <@ionnek_cgi> it would be good if someone would start gathering stuff to put in a press release. 
21:17 <@ionnek_cgi> with indymedia center raided on top, then additional info.
21:17 < maqui> lausanne stream still on
21:18 < maqui> ionnek what did the guardian say?
21:18 < maqui> shit now lausanne stream also gone
21:18 < maqui> back up
21:18 <@Zapata> question: what was the status of the lusene building?
21:18 <@Zapata> was it squatted?
21:19 < ronya> lausanne is on
21:20 <@ionnek_cgi> it s a social center. 
21:20 < maqui> misic now so i dont think it streaming from usine?
21:20 <@ionnek_cgi> maybe ex squat.
21:20 < maqui> music i mean
21:20 < ronya> contacting parlamentarians they are appealing raid media centre its out of control, please asking for appeal for parlamentarians, arrested a loarge nr of people in french now clearly c
21:21 < ronya> sorry messy just trying to type as i hear along
21:21 <@ionnek_cgi> take your time....
21:21 < maqui> what are u listening ronya
21:21 < maqui> lausanne is playing music now. i dont thisnk from usine
21:21 < ronya> i am listening geneva or something direct from usine...
21:21 <@ionnek_cgi> maqui can I open a window to tk with you?
21:22 < maqui> k
21:24 < ronya> ona!
21:24 < ronya> te estoy hablando mujer!
21:24 -!- Luft is now known as ana
21:24 < ronya> radio is now dead!
21:24 < ana> se me congelo el  ordenata\
21:25 < ana> my computer got frozen
21:25 < ana> i tried to restart it but i don't know what's wrong with it...
21:25 < ronya> contacted with people with people in geneva, from lausanne media centre, need for journalist to come in. 
21:26 < ronya> continue translating from italian streaming from lausanne  now
21:26 < ronya> now music is on sounds like intiillimani
21:26 < maqui> i gotta go for a bit .. see u in a while
21:26 < ana> c u
21:26 < ronya> music from andes i mean band from early 70s
21:27 <@yossarian> ana is your computer fucked at this time still?
21:27 <@ionnek_cgi> has anyone time to prepare a press release?
21:27 <@yossarian> ionnek_cgi: i am probably too fucked to write coherently i'm sorry
21:28 < ana> yossarian:  no this time is my new computer
21:28 < ronya> ionnek could try in an hour is that too late? having comp prob have to restrta etc
21:28 <@ionnek_cgi> whenever...
21:28 < ronya> but dont know enough could take from timeline etc?
21:28 <@ionnek_cgi> but promise that youll have a rest.
21:29 < ronya> talking to me?
21:29 <@ionnek_cgi> yes
21:29 < ronya> ok tha mate i am nearly dead u must be too :)
21:29 < ronya> in indy belgium saying this escuola diaz
21:29 < ronya>  nr 2
21:31 <@yossarian> ronya it doesn't appear to be that bad yet
21:31 <@yossarian> ana can i help at all with your new computer
21:31 <@ionnek_cgi> I would like to have a meeting with all of you now. 
21:31 < ronya> ionnek for later press release thingy: what should go o`? from timeline or 
21:31 <@ionnek_cgi> this is getting messy. lots happening a part from this school. 
21:32 < ronya> good to hear that yoss!
21:32 < ronya> 2 ambulances been heard 
21:32 <@ionnek_cgi> please not the ambulances again!
21:32 <@ionnek_cgi> people I think we need a meeting.
21:32 < ronya> ok - just on the main chat!
21:32 < zcat> ill take over cgi if you want
21:32 < ronya> yeaphlets have meeting
21:33 < zcat> join #ukcgi
21:33 <@ionnek_cgi> let's have a meeting now. 
21:33 <@ionnek_cgi> please, zcat, can we have a meeting now and coordinate abit?
21:33 < zcat> ok
21:33 <@ionnek_cgi> who is listnening and up for doing some work now or later?
21:33 < zcat> now
21:33 < ronya> later cant do any for next hour or two
21:34 <@ionnek_cgi> zak - still here?
21:34 < ronya> but i am listening!
21:34 <@ionnek_cgi> ana - are you here?
21:34 < zak> yeah i'm here
21:34 <@yossarian> reports coming in from n3dvaaag
21:34 <@ionnek_cgi> cool.
21:34 <@yossarian> in #dispatch
21:34 <@ionnek_cgi> yoss, we're having a meeting now. 
21:34 <@ionnek_cgi> coordinating a bit. 
21:34 <@yossarian> <n3dvaaag> vaaag : the demo in support of lozan which went to the council in the afternoon has been
21:34 <@yossarian> <n3dvaaag> surrounding and separeted in 2 by cops
21:34 <@yossarian> <intrigeri> n3dvaaag: confirmed ?
21:34 <@yossarian> <bik3sab> n3dvaaag: any more details?
21:34 <@yossarian> <n3dvaaag> the queue disappared in the town center
21:34 <@yossarian> <n3dvaaag> behind riot cops
21:34 < ana> yes i'm here but trying to fix my computer with yoss
21:34 <@ionnek_cgi> can you help coordinating?
21:34 <@yossarian> <vegVAAAG> confirmed, demo split in 2
21:34 <@yossarian> <vegVAAAG> in annemasse
21:34 <@yossarian> <vegVAAAG> confirmed: part of the demo that's in front of the council is going ok, peaceful atmospere
21:34 <@yossarian> <dispatch-geneva-sleepy> is there any confirmation that 3 parliament members were present at l'usine?
21:34 <@yossarian> <dispatch_g2> one source told us: german polizei is coming to bd.coulouvrenier near l'usine
21:35 <@yossarian> <vegVAAAG> confirmed: 12 police vehicles are on the roundabout (near the camp)
21:35 <@yossarian> ok
21:35 <@yossarian> busy now
21:35 <@yossarian> 10 mins
21:35 <@ionnek_cgi> yoss and ana, can you just please stop reporting for a mo and let us coordinate a bit?
21:35 <@ionnek_cgi> zcat, ronya, zak are listening. 
21:35 <@ionnek_cgi> I can't update the timeline - it's too chaotic.
21:35 < ronya> i am still listening need to go soon so i am here to coordinate m8s!
21:36 <@ionnek_cgi> seems we have to wait for ana and yoss.
21:36 <@ionnek_cgi> shit.
21:36 <@ionnek_cgi> who is in dispatch?
21:36 < ana> i'm here what you want
21:36 < zcat> yoss i think
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21:36 < ronya> meanwhile i can say we have all done and are doing an amazing job!
21:37 <@ionnek_cgi> This chatroom is full of chat!
21:37 <@ionnek_cgi> thats good, we need that. 
21:37 < ronya> ok waiting is yoss and ana ready?
21:37 <@ionnek_cgi> but for whoever does cgi, it would be good to have one space
21:37 < ronya> is maqui gone?
21:37 < ana> yes waiting to hear what you have to say
21:37 <@ionnek_cgi> where information INFORMATION comes in. 
21:38 <@ionnek_cgi> i.e. 20:00 Geneva Police are entering squat (confirmed in dispatch)
21:38 <@ionnek_cgi> like that. 
21:38 < ronya> ok
21:38 < zcat> if you want ill do cgi
21:39 <@ionnek_cgi> or "report about 20:00 Geneva Police are entering squat under http..www..etc.org"
21:39 <@ionnek_cgi> wait
21:39 < ronya> too much rumours around main chat is delayed with all the news best somebody is all time in #dispatch and one in cgi, 1 translating one working on pressrealse
21:39 <@ionnek_cgi> exactly thats what I'm trying to organise. 
21:39 <@ionnek_cgi> but we also need this big chatroom were everybody can lurkand chat. 
21:40 <@ionnek_cgi> zcat you have opened a cgi room?
21:40 < ronya> ok
21:40 < zcat> #ukcgi is open post confirmed reports and links to it
21:40 <@ionnek_cgi> ok. 
21:40 <@ionnek_cgi> now - who feeds what into that room?
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21:41 <@ionnek_cgi> I can feed in info from dispatch.
21:41 < ronya> good!
21:41 <@ionnek_cgi> zak, what are you up to?
21:41 < ana> well as you can see my computer is having serious problems so i'm off this organisation until further notice
21:41 < ronya> i can do translations from wire later when back
21:41 <@ionnek_cgi> great. 
21:41 -!- mode/#uk [+oo zcat ronya] by ChanServ
21:41 -!- mode/#uk [+o ana] by ChanServ
21:42 <@ionnek_cgi> when you done sth, ask in uk cgi if the person can add links. 
21:42 < zak> nothing specific -- just trying to follow everything at the moment
21:42 <@ronya> u talking to me?
21:42 <@ionnek_cgi> where are you following, zak? ~G8?
21:42 < zak> so shout if you need stuff doing
21:43 < zak> here and #g8
21:43 <@ronya> ok radio rep now things on in lausanne centre
21:43 <@ionnek_cgi> I need someone who is in #G8 and feeds theuk cgi room.
21:43 <@ronya> sorry this is a meeting!
21:43 <@zcat> ok ill do that
21:43 <@ionnek_cgi> what are you doing, zcat?
21:43 <@ronya> so i keep uploading and back in a while or should we coordinate more now?
21:44 <@zcat> #g8 or whatever
21:44 <@ionnek_cgi> no, ronya, I think you#re done :-)
21:44 <@ronya> what is on next #ukcgi or #uk?
21:44 <@ronya> tha m8! talk to u l8r :)
21:45 <@ionnek_cgi> zak, can you "process" info from #G8 and type it into #ukcgi?
21:45 <@ronya> i mean is still this chat room the one for chatting and uk cgi only for uploading links or what a bit tired in my brain now?
21:45 < zak> ok will do
21:45 <@yossarian> <n3dvaaag> vaaag : the police vehicles are here to prevent anybody to go to switzerland
21:45 <@yossarian> <yossarian> n3dvaaag: how do you know this are they telling you this?
21:45 <@yossarian> <vegVAAAG> yossarian: yes
21:45 <@yossarian> <dispatch-geneva-sleepy> i saw one woman whose leg was bleeding after being shot by some sort of projectile. i believe the man with her was also shot with a rubber bullet.
21:45 <@yossarian> <vegVAAAG> yossarian: confirmed, an indymedia person asked a cop (!) about this
21:45 <@ionnek_cgi> uk cgi is just for instructing the cgi person. 
21:45 <@yossarian> sorry to jump in\
21:45 <@yossarian> brb
21:45 <@ionnek_cgi> getting a bit overexcited.
21:46 <@ronya> thanks ionnek! so i  ut into ukcgi urls etc then?
21:46 <@ionnek_cgi> ok, zak - if there's nothing in G8, of course other stuff is welcome. 
21:46 <@ionnek_cgi> ronya I tk to you private in a mo. 
21:46 <@ronya> ok
21:46 <@caffeinated_pingouin> The radio is having music now ... do you know where they are broadcasting anything ??
21:46 <@ionnek_cgi> zcat, do you want to go in cgi?
21:46 <@ionnek_cgi> pingouin, we're just having a meeting. 
21:47 <@ionnek_cgi> I wonder - are you listening to the radio all the time?
21:47 <@caffeinated_pingouin> no .. but I have a crapy computer .. one time it work one time not
21:47 <@ionnek_cgi> caffeinated_pingouin
21:47 <@zcat> ok
21:47 <@zcat>  ill do cgi
21:47 <@ionnek_cgi> zcat can you repeat the channel?
21:48 <@zcat> #ukcgi
21:48 <@ionnek_cgi> :-)
21:48 <@caffeinated_pingouin> thanks
21:48 <@ionnek_cgi> I'll join now
21:48 -!- zcat is now known as zcat_cgi
21:48 <@ionnek_cgi> pingouin, can you please join #ukcgi?
21:49 <@caffeinated_pingouin> done
21:49 <@ionnek_cgi> and everybody else?
21:49 <@ionnek_cgi> ok, we're moving this thing to #ukcgi.
21:50 <@ronya> ionnek  have to go now talk to u later 
21:52 -!- ionnek_cgi is now known as ionnek
21:56 <@ionnek> ...  am reading up on VAAAG now.
21:56 <@ionnek> in dispatch
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22:02 <@ionnek> hija
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22:07 < maqui>   epa here again
22:08 <@ionnek> hey we've got a new system.
22:08 <@ionnek> zcat is doing cgi. 
22:08 < maqui> bloddy hell a brand new   mir site or whatta:)
22:08 <@ionnek> no a brand new channel. 
22:08 <@ionnek> #ukcgi
22:08 < maqui> im on there already
22:09 <@ionnek> ideally, zcat should just cut and paste info from there. 
22:09 < maqui> whats goin on n the ground 
22:09 < maqui> still riots?
22:09 <@ionnek> did you follow the annemasse chaos demos?
22:09 < maqui> what about indy raid
22:09 <@ionnek> apparently nobody arrested, only stopped. 
22:10 < maqui> uffff!! :)  
22:11 < maqui> but ~g8 talks of 12 arrests at usine
22:18 -!- pm [~jirc at adsl-133-143.init7.net] has joined #uk
22:19 < pm> hi planet mail and pen checking in
22:19 < pm> we are ok
22:19 <@zcat_cgi> yo pm go to #ukcgi
22:19 <@zcat_cgi> with confirmed reports if got any
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22:20 <@chrisc> pm: glad to hear you are ok :-)
22:20 <@chrisc> ah well!
22:20 <@vlo> you guys are so pro :)
22:20 <@vlo> hehe
22:20 <@yossarian> what's shaking
22:21 -!- pm [~jirc at adsl-133-143.init7.net] has joined #uk
22:21 < maqui> epa pm an penny ... nice to see you (even in a virtual form)
22:21 <@ionnek> helloo
22:21 < pm> we do not have much time here
22:21 <@ionnek> pm, 
22:21 <@ionnek> so shoot!
22:21 < maqui> are u safe and sound?
22:21 < pm> so can you tell us what you know about police raid on imc
22:21 <@ionnek> yes. 
22:21 < pm> we have no mobile phone use here
22:21 < maqui> they broke oin undercover cops
22:21 <@ionnek> first rumours.
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22:22 < pm> explain
22:22 < maqui> using contusion grenades and kicking a couple of people
22:22 <@ionnek> while the media room was still streaming.
22:22 < maqui> eventually they made it to the media room
22:22  * hfx_ben wonders if somebody here works on UK frontpage.
22:22 <@ionnek> police raided first floor kicking people
22:22 < maqui> and they started identyfying everyone
22:22 <@ionnek> maqui can you update pm i tk to hfx.
22:23 < maqui> k
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22:23 < maqui> so they came into the building violently
22:24 < marais> nght!
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22:24 < guest1> connection just broke here..
22:25 < maqui> are u pm
22:25 < guest1> anyway guy is in hospital but is ok
22:25 < guest1> yes
22:25 < maqui> ok
22:25 < maqui> bloody hell heavy down there innit?
22:25 <@ionnek> where was the guy hurt - at VAAAG?
22:25 < maqui> anyway ill summ up coz i gotta go for a while
22:25 < guest1> we will try to get back to media centre apparently cops have just left
22:25 < maqui> ionnek can u update pm
22:25 < maqui> i really have to go be back in half an hou or so
22:26 < guest1> but it's been pretty hectic lots of uk people got nicked earlier but are out now
22:26 <@ionnek> yes, no arrests have been confirmed but there might have been some. 
22:26 <@ionnek> I don't know who is there now. 
22:26 < maqui> radio stream confirmed arrests at usine
22:26 <@ionnek> 100 cops raided the place.
22:26 < guest1> anyway our phone died so thats why we have not been in touch for ages
22:26 < maqui> but didnt know how many
22:26 < guest1> assume you know that at lousanne camp the cops released the last 200 people or so...
22:26 < maqui> ahhh i kept txting u
22:26 < guest1> witjhout dragging them off\
22:26 <@ionnek> but blicero and dispatch people don't know any details about arrests. 
22:27 < guest1> did dispatch get raided as well?
22:27 <@ionnek> did you hear rumours about pp being dragged off to military camp?
22:27 <@ionnek> no. but they are in maison dassociations
22:27 <@ionnek> and there was some teargassing in the vicinity. 
22:27 <@ionnek> but they are getting better now, 
22:27 < guest1> its kicking off BIGTIME in the centre
22:27 <@ionnek> still a bit desperate. 
22:27 < maqui> still now?!
22:27 <@ionnek> needing pp to help.
22:28 < guest1> as we write huge crowds gas water cannon charges etc\
22:28 <@ionnek> where are you?
22:28 < maqui> fucking hell
22:28 <@ionnek> WHERE?
22:28 < guest1> night time youth out on the streets running everywhere\
22:28 < guest1> GENEVA
22:28 <@ionnek> center of geneva?
22:28 < guest1> yes
22:28 <@ionnek> k
22:28 < guest1> all areound imc area and beyond
22:29 < guest1> we got back from bloody lousane and walked right into it...
22:29 < guest1> doh.
22:29 < guest1> ok we gotta go... pronto...
22:29 < maqui> ok mate take care
22:29 < guest1> good work all will check in later if pos from media centre otherwise tmrw
22:29 <@ionnek> take care monsieur. 
22:29 <@ionnek> et madame.
22:29 < guest1> ciao from dave and pen
22:29 < hfx_ben> bb 15
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22:30 < maqui> kiss to penny and to you tooooo :))
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22:30 < maqui> ionnek i get the bus now
22:30 < maqui> ill see u in a bit
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22:32 <@ionnek> hola
22:32 < ona> at last!
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22:32 < ona> yossarian helped me with computer 
22:33 < ona> looked really dead, the poor thing
22:33 <@ionnek> better now?
22:33 < ona> but it was only tired with so much streaming
22:33 < ona> so what has been organised?
22:33 < ona> looks like i'm spending the night here
22:33 <@ionnek> we are using a brand new chatroom. 
22:34 <@ionnek> #ukcgi
22:34 < ona> i've sen that. should i be in there?
22:34 <@ionnek> wait
22:34 <@ionnek> zcat sits there and cuts and pasts info in the cgi. 
22:34 <@ionnek> should be really quick. 
22:34 <@ionnek> that means we have to send him "processed" info. 
22:35 <@ionnek> not long copied conversations from another chatroom for expl. 
22:35 <@ionnek> just things like:
22:35  * yossarian performs drumroll
22:35 <@ionnek> 23:30 peaceful demo in Annemasse. heavy police presence in VAAAG village nearby.
22:36 <@ionnek> or: 
22:36 <@ionnek> please link httpblabla to "village" in 23:30 peaceful demo in Annemasse. heavy police presence in VAAAG village nearby.
22:36 < ona> very very good idea
22:36 < ona> had to come from an organised German :)
22:36 <@ionnek> we have distributed hunting grounds.
22:37 <@yossarian> and the messy part comes from in this room here ionnek?
22:37 <@ionnek> I look in the dispatch and bother pp there. 
22:37 < ona> wish i had had that when i was in cgi
22:37 <@ionnek> yes, messy part here. 
22:37 <@yossarian> ok
22:37 < ona> did you see when i fucked the front page?
22:37 <@ionnek> zak is looking at G8 room. 
22:37 < ona> should be included in the indymedia book
22:37 < ona> ah should i look into a room?
22:37 <@ionnek> maybe yoss, check if sth is happening in #conf?
22:38 < ona> or - are there any streams back up?
22:38 <@ionnek> there is also the dispatch site...
22:38 <@yossarian> nothing going on in #conf
22:38 <@ionnek> maybe yoss, you can take over dipatch, and I check the german swiss site.
22:38 <@ionnek> or ona, 
22:38 <@caffeinated_pingouin> bye everyone ... see you tomorrow
22:39 < ona> yes sir!
22:39 < ona> :)
22:39 <@ionnek> bye pengouin
22:39 <@yossarian> bye ping
22:39 < ona> by caffeinated
22:39 < zak> night ping
22:39 <@ionnek> so you're coming back???
22:39 <@ionnek> can't believe it!
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22:40 <@yossarian> getting good stuff in dispatch now
22:40 <@yossarian> account of events in usine
22:41 <@ionnek> ona - how about the newswire - see if anything needs linking that isn't yet linked.
22:41 < ona> ok
22:42 < ona> can some one get automatically a list of links already in mid col?
22:42 < ona> also sprout needs to know if usine has been shut down, and any news of arrests
22:42 < ona> please
22:43 <@vlo> http://www.indymedia.nl/media/2003/06/12111.mp3
22:43 <@chrisc> ona: re: links, hang on i'll get it
22:43 <@yossarian> ona: usine is functioning once again
22:43 <@vlo> is 15mins from raid
22:43 < ona> hey chrisc, you here! hi!
22:43 <@yossarian> no imc arrests
22:43 < ona> thanks!
22:44  * chrisc just lurkin and learning mostly!
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22:44 <@yossarian> whoops
22:44 <@yossarian> jamie_k says 3 imc arrests
22:44 <@ionnek> penouin just said usine has been closed down?
22:45 <@yossarian> jamie_k is reporting from usine now
22:45 <@yossarian> i think the streams are back up too
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22:45 < ona> yos: where do i get jamie?
22:45 <@ronya> josian! te acabo de scribir un chat privado
22:45 < josianito> me cai
22:45 <@yossarian> ona i will bring it to you
22:45 <@yossarian> sit tight
22:46 < ona> what?
22:46 <@yossarian> the theory is that #dispatch is a closed channel 
22:46 <@yossarian> so there aren't all kinds of people coming through all the time
22:46 <@yossarian> when we're trying to figure out what is fact and what is fiction
22:46 <@yossarian> so i will post stuff from dispatch when he's done
22:47 <@yossarian> probably about 5 minutes
22:47 <@ionnek> jamie is just writing a report that looks like it can be published in the newswire 
22:47 <@ionnek> AND i can send it totheguardian. 
22:47 <@yossarian> that's the plan, yeah
22:47 <@chrisc> ona: the list of links from todays feature is at the end of this text file:
22:48 <@chrisc> http://atomism.demon.co.uk/2003/06/links.txt
22:48 <@yossarian> the guardian?
22:48 < ona> thanks chrisc
22:48 <@ionnek> yeah i tkd to the newsdesk.
22:49 < ona> ok off to do links
22:49 < ona> i'm also listening the radio stream
22:49 < ona> very confusing, sounds like a hidden microphone
22:49 < ona> ppl talking in french
22:53 <@yossarian> ionnek the timeline still says that the media centre is shut down and people are trapped
22:53 <@yossarian> should i write something saying that is no longer the case?
22:54 < ona> i'm also taking off the bloody name from reports, poor martin didn't want his name publicised and people are giving his surname!!!
22:54 <@ionnek> yes please
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22:54 <@ionnek> hola is that josian?
22:54 <@ronya> josian me perdi haciendo curro de traducciones
22:54 <@ionnek> yossarian, please do that!
22:54 <@ronya> asi que recien te escribi 
22:55 <@ronya> BARNA!
22:55 < lasagencias> si soy josian
22:55 < lasagencias> !!
22:56 < lasagencias> hola a todas
22:56 <@ronya> ei epa bienvenuto al chat!
22:56 <@ronya> recien te escribi en el privado hiscistes bien los comandos solo que estoy salteando de de traduccion en traduccion
22:56 <@ionnek> JOOOSIAAAAAN!
22:57 < lasagencias> muamuamua 
22:57 <@zcat_cgi> what?
22:57 <@yossarian> 23:51
22:57 <@ionnek> :||
22:57 <@yossarian> <vegVAAAG> confirmed: cops block entrance to the motorway near the VAAAG
22:57 <@yossarian> <vegVAAAG> while the demonstration is still peacefully coming back to the camp
22:57 <@ronya> sound for kiss in spanish!
22:57 <@yossarian> can someone do something with this
22:57 <@ionnek> with what?
22:57 <@ionnek> ah. 
22:58 <@zcat_cgi> is it confirmed?
22:58 <@ionnek> will do VAAAG entry for timeline.
22:59 <@ionnek> zcat, VAAAG is confirmed.
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23:00 < Maqui0> hello
23:01 <@ronya> josian podes leer el chat privado o se te perdio la linea?
23:01 < zak> right, i have to go -- anyone else keeping an eye on #g8?
23:02 <@ronya> yes me 
23:02 <@ronya> riots in plan palais  checking location now
23:02 <@ionnek> we've got that - should be up.
23:02 <@ronya> video stream from the usine
23:02 < ona> I am taking his name off some reports and i have asked people to be respectful, not to name him and not to publish silly rumours
23:03 < Maqui0> ana whos hi
23:03 < Maqui0> him
23:03 < ona> see article id 70367
23:03 <@ronya> his full nmae has been published in dispatch and imc ch
23:03 < ona> it shouldn't have been
23:03 < ona> he expressely asked not to be named
23:04 < ona> i guess is kind of impossible to keep it secret
23:04 <@ronya> german cops fighting in plan palais
23:04 < ona> but imagine you're a mother and you learn from a site that your son is dead
23:04 < ona> thats fu** out of order
23:04 <@ronya> yes i know really enoying but it wasnt us but corporate press and judge
23:04 <@ronya> apparently
23:04 < ona> ah ok
23:04 < ona> let's be better than them then
23:04 < ona> and hide it?
23:04 <@ronya> he is alive isnt he please?
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23:05 < ona> OF COURSE!!!
23:05 < ona> AND CONSCIOUS
23:05 < ona> and asking not to be named
23:05 < zak> right see everyone tomorrow....
23:05 <@ronya> ok ok lets take it away
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23:09 <@bunny> just hid mis info on person in hospital
23:10 < Maqui0> ronya
23:10 -!- josianito [~josianito at docsis72-7.menta.net] has joined #uk
23:10 <@bunny> I will edit out name as well
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23:11 <@ionnek> ona
23:11 <@ionnek> ona?
23:11 < ona> sorry yes?
23:12 <@ionnek> help!
23:12 <@ionnek> what was the number of the guardian?
23:12 < Maqui0> ionne what
23:12 < Maqui0> i got it
23:12 < Maqui0> wait
23:13 <@ionnek> cool. 
23:13 < ona> we have john vidal's number but he's probably in laussane
23:13 < Maqui0> 72782332
23:13 < Maqui0> nat dispatch room email too
23:13 < Maqui0> want i mean
23:14 < Maqui0> andi reckons is best mail foreign room
23:14 < Maqui0> foreign.copy at guardian.co.uk
23:15 <@vlo> is it ok to link to http://atomism.demon.co.uk/2003/06/links.txt ??
23:15 <@ionnek> maqui you don't have the newsdesk no?
23:16 <@ionnek> cause thats the guy I talked to.
23:16 <@ionnek> ona where did you find that guardian no?
23:16 <@chrisc> vlo: you can if you want but it's just a domestioc adsl line...
23:16 <@vlo> so it will disappear?
23:16 <@chrisc> vlo: probably better to copy it somewhere...
23:16 < ona> in their website
23:16 < ona> but then my computer collapsed, remember?
23:16 <@vlo> it is not finished yet?
23:16 <@vlo> ok
23:16 <@chrisc> vlo: no it'll stay there
23:16 < ona> some one posted the guardian website here
23:16 < Maqui0> ionnek: dont have newsdesk no
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23:17 < ona> didn't you get vidal's number ionnek?
23:17 < ona> no use?
23:17 <@chrisc> vlo: it's just a text version of the feature i did for ona a while ago... not very interesting...
23:18 < ona> just to say i'm not so much in this chat, i'm cleaning
23:18 <@ionnek> re vidal: I tkd to theguy at newsdesk. 
23:18 <@ionnek> won#t call vidal at midnight.
23:18 <@chrisc> http://www.guardian.co.uk/gu_contacts/0,5816,180767,00.html
23:18 <@chrisc> that is contact info page...
23:18 <@sprout> sprout back 4 a bit
23:19 <@sprout> i have just spoken to a really good friend of the fall guy - she has phoned his mum, 20 mins after some jerk from the evening standard
23:20 <@sprout> oh joy ohjoy
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23:22 < ona> ionnek and all: can we put a big sign on the site asking the world to hide htis person's name
23:22 < ona> becuase it's no point having a person hiding it from every where
23:22 < ona> i'll give up at some point i guess...
23:22 <@ionnek> you know that pp in dispatch said that the guy didn't mind?
23:22 <@zcat_cgi> not much point at this stage
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23:23 <@yossarian> ona, it's ok to publish martin's full name
23:23 < ona> no it's not
23:23 <@yossarian> uh
23:23 <@sprout> i also just had a detailed report phoned thru from a medic, who was also held at the detention centre today - horrid - they had a 15 year old girl locked up in a cupboard for hours - i'm gonna write it up and post it straight to the site
23:23 <@yossarian> i can check again but i thought it was
23:24 <@yossarian> maybe i'm wrong
23:24 <@yossarian> one sec
23:24 <@chrisc> press reports are not naming him, for example:
23:24 <@chrisc> http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_786748.html
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23:24 <@chrisc> http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0600uk/page.cfm?objectid=13022031&method=full&siteid=50082&headline=Briton%20injured%20in%20G8%20protest
23:25 <@yossarian> one:
23:25 <@yossarian> ona:
23:25 <@yossarian> :)
23:25 <@yossarian> <yossarian> blicero_: the final decision on publishing martin's name was that we publish martin's full name yes?
23:25 <@yossarian> <yossarian> or anyone?
23:25 <@yossarian> <blicero_> it's already publica
23:25 <@yossarian> <blicero_> it wen on tialina national television
23:25 <@yossarian> <jamie_k> re. martin as i heard it from fra he WANTS to be published 
23:25 <@yossarian> <yossarian> and he was cool with that even before, yes?
23:25 <@yossarian> <jamie_k> ok 
23:25 <@yossarian> <yossarian> ok cool
23:25 <@yossarian> <yossarian> thanks
23:26 <@yossarian> so don't bother hiding it
23:26 <@sprout> anyway, about martin's name, what's done ids done, but i tihkn that the word from his affinity group is still, try not to big it up, for various reasons...his past activism etc etc, also, there are still rumours flying around various networks, and in switzerland, that he's dead
23:26 <@yossarian> put his full name on everything
23:26 < ona> blicero is also a human being that needs to respect other people's decision
23:26 < ona> i htnk
23:26 < ona> i like blicero but i'd rather go with martin's decision than with blicero's
23:26 <@yossarian> word from fr. who had apparently contacted martin was that he wanted the name used
23:26 < Maqui> they just mentioned his full name in itv
23:26 < ona> and not only because it's a friend of a friend
23:27 <@yossarian> that's cool ona but apparently his decision was to be named
23:27 <@sprout> listen, in a bit, i can phone someone from chocolate to ask, they're all really good friends of mine
23:27 <@yossarian> whereas the woman who was on the other side of the bridge
23:27 <@yossarian> has apparently specifically asked not to be named
23:27 < ona> or because i've shared with him a few of my best days
23:27 <@sprout> yoss, earlier today it was not repeat not to be named
23:27 < ona> even though i can recall his face now, i'm sure i will say 'hey, you!!' next time i see him
23:28 <@sprout> give me a mo, i'll call, we're wasting a lot of time on this
23:29 <@yossarian> this francesca person showed up in #dispatch saying she'd talked to him and that he had changed his mind (if i recall correctly)
23:29 <@yossarian> so i guess it's really down to here
23:29 <@yossarian> her
23:29 <@yossarian> jamie_k was vouching for her authenticity 
23:29 <@yossarian> before he gained minor celebrity status himself
23:29 <@yossarian> we are breeding heroes at a very disturbing rate
23:30 <@yossarian> the price in pain and fear for those involved is too high
23:30 <@yossarian> :(
23:31 <@yossarian> sorry i'm tired and rambling
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23:32 < Maqui> ionnek
23:32 <@ionnek> yes.
23:32 < hfx_ben> yossarian: I got a play list working locally, but not on my server ... so I cannot suggest changing things around now.
23:33 < Maqui> what can i do just back to action
23:33  * hfx_ben goes back to experimenting *sigh*
23:33 <@sprout> hey, is that italian francesca, who worked out of amsterdam for ages - if it is, she's cool, she rocks
23:33 <@ionnek> yes it is.
23:33 < Maqui> is zcat happy in cgi
23:33 <@ionnek> dunno...
23:34 < Maqui> another thin the injured journo we talk about in feture is guy iinit?
23:34 <@ionnek> do we have any news for him?
23:34 < Maqui> hes ok, but in hospital
23:34 <@ionnek> can we put sth in the timeline?
23:34 <@ionnek> about this guy for expl. 
23:34 <@ionnek> where and when was he wounded?
23:34 < ona> any one news from dave and peni
23:34 < ona> ?
23:34 <@ionnek> they are alive. 
23:34 < ona> haven't heard from them for more than 8 hours
23:34 <@ionnek> and their mobisl doesn't work. 
23:35 <@ionnek> thats why. 
23:35 < Maqui> not from them but i think we could say hes an imc-uk volunteer
23:35 < ona> how do you know?
23:35 < Maqui> or maybe better not actually ... not without asking him 1st
23:35 < ona> their mobiles are off
23:35 <@ronya> mates can i do alst thing before i have to faint into bed have final examninations of students tmw early morning
23:36 <@ionnek> they don't work but they came here for 5 mins. 
23:36 <@ionnek> is anyone up for helping zcat - give him links?
23:36 <@ronya> meant can i do something as my last duty in this shift?
23:36 <@ronya> links from wire?
23:36 < Maqui> there's never a last duty in indyland :)
23:37 <@ronya> last duty for todays non stop 24 shift u party animal :)))
23:37 < Maqui> look in terms of timeline im not sure if is worthy to go on forever talking about riots here or there
23:37 <@sprout> so, i'll get on with writing up this report, and the people i just talked to in lausanne are going to ask about DandP in the indymedia tent, altho they had heard a rumour that indymedia folk had been arrested - so i'll write this stuff up, and then i'll see if there's anything to translate on the french and italian wires - iz zat cool for zcat?;-)
23:37 < Maqui> party is good for ur neureones
23:37 <@ronya> ok i check wire for other news
23:38 <@ionnek> links from wire b good.
23:38 < Maqui> ionnek what happened with guardian
23:38 <@ronya> couldnt agree more wish i was there dancing my socks off instead of in timeline
23:38 <@ronya> ok ionnek will do !
23:39 <@ionnek> cool.
23:39 <@sprout> sneaking off to bmy own computer for a bit, back zooooon
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23:40 <@chrisc> good night folks, you have all been doing an amazing job :-)
23:41 <@ionnek> hey chrisc you've been v quiet...
23:41 <@ionnek> u ok?
23:41 < Maqui> chao mate
23:41 < Maqui> wassup with u havent heard anything for days
23:41 <@ionnek> he's probably reshaping the uk site.
23:43 < Maqui> lsten everyone whats the plan ... to continue timeline all night looong?
23:43 <@ronya> zcat! what links do u wanna mate? from uk wire or from everywhere?
23:44 <@ronya> dunno the plan but yesterday we kept it to 4ish yoss? whole night long???
23:44 <@ionnek> I don't want to do much longer.
23:44 <@ronya> and today seems much more on..but myself i cant manage much longer without any sleep
23:45 <@ionnek> havent looked at site for ages.
23:45 < Maqui> i mean now probably is a matter of small grups here and there
23:45 <@zcat_cgi> cu chris
23:45 <@ronya> ok what links uk or else?
23:45 < Maqui> what would be interesting is what happens in the camps
23:45 <@ronya> zcat!!!
23:45 <@ronya> :))) mate what is it that u need?
23:50 <@ionnek> I think zcat wandered off.
23:50 <@yossarian> maybe hfx_ben could fill in for him
23:50 < Maqui> do we need someone in cgi
23:50 <@ronya> no we were coordinating
23:50 <@ronya> just a sec ago
23:51 <@zcat_cgi> im in cgi waiting 4 links etc to go to #ukcgi
23:51 <@ronya> ok so long diving into french german and reps in english
23:51 <@zcat_cgi> and lookin 4 stuff
23:52 <@ionnek> feedback about guardian:
23:53 <@ronya> ok account from usine in en url: http://switzerland.indymedia.org/it/2003/06/10312.shtml
23:53 <@yossarian> i think if i smoke one more cigarette i will probably barf
23:54 < Maqui> yoss  barrfff barrrffff ")
23:54 <@ronya> ok pics imc ch from geneva url: http://switzerland.indymedia.org/de/2003/06/10308.shtml
23:55 <@ronya> or u prefer i give u urls in ukcgi zcat?
23:56 <@yossarian> Maqui: just lit it
23:57 <@ronya> just had live rep from imc centre..more in aminute
23:58 < ona> this is a video with background info:
23:58 < Maqui> yoss what lit what
23:58 < ona> http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=70368&group=webcast
23:58 < ona> plse pple have a look & shall we put it in mid col?
23:59 <@yossarian> the cigarette that is going to make me barf maqui
--- Day changed Mon Jun 02 2003
00:00 < Maqui> no moooreee please :)
00:00 <@yossarian> hahahahaha
00:01 <@zcat_cgi> swiss link up
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00:01 < Maqui> a nice line i got in g8 room "teargas, the smell of frightened capitalist" ... nice innit
00:02 <@ionnek> use it as title for todays feature?
00:03 < Maqui> i thought so i think its a beautiful line
00:03 < Maqui> something marcos would say :)
00:03 < Maqui> lets us it?
00:03 < Maqui> what do people think
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00:04 < ona> fine by me but no one said nothing on video link
00:04 < hfx_ben> I've gotten only music from the Geneve and Lausanne MP3 feeds ... is http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=70373&group=webcast why?
00:04 < ona> i should be doing more actually
00:04 <@zcat_cgi> ona that is video from friday not today
00:05 < ona> well it has been posted today in the wire,
00:05 < ona> zcat do you want more pple in cgi or shall i post my things here?
00:06 <@yossarian> ona looking at it now
00:06 <@zcat_cgi> best to post to #ukcgi if its varified 
00:06 <@yossarian> it's good ona
00:06 < ona> ok
00:06 <@yossarian> i say go for it
00:07 < hfx_ben> oh, BTW yossaria: http://www.indymedia.nl/live/ uses M3U
00:08 < hfx_ben> (unfortunately, it's encoded at 64kbps *wigh*)
00:08 <@ronya> i ma still vacuuming urls ok
00:09 <@zcat_cgi> anyone wanna take overcgi  to put links in
00:10 < ona> did this report from sprout go up on site?
00:10 < ona> i also just had a detailed report phoned thru from a medic, who was also held at the detention centre today - horrid - they had a 15 year old girl locked up in a cupboard for hours - i'm gonna write it up and post it straight to the site
00:10 < Maqui> ill do it for a while but not tooo long
00:10 <@yossarian> does anybody need anything from me
00:10 <@yossarian> if not i think i'd like to go expire
00:10 < ona> you leaving?
00:10 <@zcat_cgi> bbc got photos at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/photo_gallery/2953932.stm
00:10 < hfx_ben> one: cupboard? or closet? that might be confusion in translation.
00:10 <@yossarian> that is my fondest hope ona
00:11 <@zcat_cgi> shall i put it in timeline?
00:12 <@zcat_cgi> ona when u written it post link ti #ukcgi
00:12 < Maqui> zcat good pics of the camps here http://germany.indymedia.org/2003/06/53251.shtml
00:12 <@zcat_cgi> fuck im fucking fucked !!:)
00:13 <@zcat_cgi> :)
00:13 <@yossarian> night ppl have fun
00:13 < hfx_ben> cia
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00:14 < Maqui> biy yossarian you're indoubtedly the starrrr
00:14 <@yossarian> have a good time maqui
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00:14 < ona> oh bye yossarian
00:14 < Maqui> ill be here tomorroe eve after work see yiou then? :)
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00:15 < Maqui> zcat
00:17 <@zcat_cgi> yo
00:18 < Maqui> are u still doing cgi?
00:18 <@zcat_cgi> yes
00:18 <@ronya> buenas noches maqui maq! 
00:18 < Maqui> ok i got nice pics to link up
00:18 < Maqui> epa ronya bona nit
00:18 <@zcat_cgi> go im putting links to pics now
00:18 <@ronya> ok zcat this what i got a few links in en from various imcs not for timeline but as links to various wires  making html and putting into ukcgi
00:19 <@ronya> bona nit!
00:19 < Maqui> here: police attacking "la bourdonette" camp this afternoon http://germany.indymedia.org/2003/06/53251.shtml
00:20 < ona> update from delegation an palestine
00:20 <@zcat_cgi> same one as b4 yes
00:20 < ona> (but this is another feature)
00:20 < Maqui> ana not another feat now and here please
00:21 < Maqui> yzcat yes i sent the link b4
00:21 <@zcat_cgi> k
00:21 < ona> no, i meant an update on the feature 'international
00:21 <@ionnek> ona 
00:21 < ona> yes
00:21 <@ionnek> why don't you just go to the international feats and do it?
00:21 <@ionnek> are you still in larc???
00:21 < ona> every one ok with that?
00:22 < Maqui> yesss
00:22 < ona> yes i'm gonna spend the night here
00:22 < ona> (im spending the night here)
00:22 <@ionnek> thats dedication.
00:22 < ona> and then i'll dissapear for one or two weeks!!
00:22 < Maqui> no way
00:22 <@ionnek> hausarrest.
00:22 < ona> what do you mean no way
00:22 <@ionnek> no way means no way.
00:23 < Maqui> pos eso no way
00:23 <@ionnek> no way es: no!
00:23 < ona> come on guys i have an assignment on friday
00:23 < Maqui> house arrest or exams at uni?
00:24 < Maqui> well well give u your annual leave :)
00:24 < ona> mum was telling me off as in the good old days for being with you 'antis' instead of doing assigments
00:24 <@ionnek> thats not two weeks from no.
00:24 < ona> from sprout:
00:25 < ona> they're releasing some pple from the holding camp
00:25 < ona> but they're leaving them in the middle of nowhere
00:25 < ona> in roads, at this time of the night
00:25 < ona> source: the medic friend who got targeted by police for being a medic
00:25 < ona> she's including thin in her report anyway
00:26 < ona> <end>
00:26 < ona> sorry to interrrupt fun
00:26 < ona> it's really war what's happening there
00:26 < Maqui> ok update from #g8 arrested from usine are fine. all 10 of them have been released
00:26 < Maqui> zcat got that
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00:28 -!- ona is now known as ona_cgi_intl
00:28 < ona_cgi_intl> (hope i won't destroy mid col this time)
00:29 < Maqui> :)
00:31 < Maqui> ok boys'n'girls i'm gonna go coz tomorrow im working
00:31 < Maqui> i can not be beck here 2mrw until 6(is)
00:31 <@ronya> ok me too as i am working early and big hug to all and great work mates! �zcat links now in ukcgi 
00:32 <@ronya> ona! si queres manadme assigment bueno abrazote
00:32 <@ronya> ionel vilene kuss un mua mua
00:33 <@ronya> muac to all!
00:33 <@zcat_cgi> cu both
00:33 <@ionnek> ciao ronya
00:33 <@ronya> ciaoooo!
00:33 <@zcat_cgi> love and rage
00:33 <@ionnek> mua
00:34 < Maqui> zcat
00:34 <@zcat_cgi> yo
00:34 <@ronya> hugehug
00:34 < Maqui> did u get update that all 10 arrested in usine (imc centre) have now been released?
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00:35 <@zcat_cgi> ionnek doing it thanks
00:36 < ona_cgi_intl> done
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00:36 < Maqui> fast
00:36 <@ionnek> yeah?
00:36 < ona> pse check front page for destroyment
00:36 < Maqui> zcat, ionnek, ona, et all
00:36 <@ionnek> yes?
00:36 < ona> (it was only one link & update of some others)
00:36 < ona> yes
00:37 < Maqui> who is able to do some tomorrow
00:37 < ona> i could if i sleep tonight
00:37 < Maqui> do we know the plans down there?
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00:37 <@ionnek> we could check but don't think much. 
00:38 < ona> checking with sprout
00:38 < Maqui> thats the point ... i dont think theres much usse to stay up longer tonight
00:38 <@ionnek> an arty thing somewhere linked to the gnenva03 project.
00:38 < ona> evey one there are nackered and in a state of shock
00:38 < Maqui> whats that
00:38 <@ionnek> there in larc?
00:38 < Maqui> ionnek what arty thing
00:38 < ona> however they must -in laussane etc- be having some kind of meeting now
00:38 <@ionnek> forgot. check geneva03 website.
00:39 <@ionnek> well what needs doing 2morrow.
00:39 <@ionnek> no timeline!!!
00:39 <@ionnek> I can shorten the wed/thu timeline and the fri timeline. 
00:39 < Maqui> people in *g8 are worried that tomorrow morning they will raid usine again
00:39 <@ionnek> oh no.
00:40 < Maqui> theyre looking 4 the vid of the cop that cut the rope in that bridge
00:40 < Maqui> anyway about 2mrw
00:40 < Maqui> im working all day but can be here from 6 ish
00:41 < Maqui> ionnek and ona ill be calling u from work as i dont use computa there
00:41 <@ionnek> they can't be that stupid.
00:42 < Maqui> well dunno
00:42 < ona> maqui you will be calling us from work?
00:42 < ona> that's dedication!
00:46 < Maqui> hey hey not sure about linking this http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/photo_gallery/2953932.stm
00:46 < Maqui> its from corporates plus we will be getting a lot of "activists" stuff posted
00:47 < Maqui> that link could go to the "corporate reports" section innit?
00:48 < Maqui> anyway laters and respect to the imcuk maaasssivve! :)
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00:51 < ona> for irc
00:51 < ona> Awaking at 3.30am more than 3000 people assembled in the dark to march
00:51 < ona> down the road, hoping to get where the highway meets the other major
00:51 < ona> geneva evian route, to block the flow of delegates from the french
00:51 < ona> side. Read full report plus a
00:51 <@ionnek> whats that?
00:52 < ona> short summary
00:52 < ona> href="http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=70383&amp;group=webcast
00:52 <@ionnek> where from?
00:52 <@ionnek> ah.
00:52 < ona> that is a link from our newswire
00:52 < ona> i think is from 3.30 morning of sunday
00:52 <@ionnek> is it linked to the timeline?
00:52 < ona> i think for the time line before the 5.30 that is there now
00:52 < ona> agree?
00:52 <@ionnek> yes. will do it.
00:53 < ona> have in with html for zcat_cgi
00:53 < ona> i'll post in cgi now then
00:53 <@ionnek> ok
00:53 < ona> ooops only thing is that no title in orange
00:53 < ona> is it indispensable?
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00:57 <@ionnek_cgi> linked to intro. 
00:59 < ona> what?
00:59 < ona> what means linked to intro, not on time line?
01:00 <@ionnek_cgi> look at the site, intro.
01:00 < ona> i see, you did
01:00 < ona> are you on cgi now and not zcat?
01:01 < ona> if it's only the two of us maybe we don't need the othe channel?
01:01 < ona> it saves mouse movements :) (lazy me)
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01:04 <@ionnek_cgi> no, we really don't need it.
01:04 <@ionnek_cgi> needed it earlier though...
01:05 <@ionnek_cgi> drives me crazy if pp keep pasting meteres of txt into this channel!
01:11 < ona> photos from the bridge:
01:11 < ona> http://de.indymedia.org/2003/06/53237.shtml
01:12 <@ionnek_cgi> you seen the indy italy ones?
01:14 < ona> no, i'm just putting links here for you to upload
01:14 < ona> more:
01:14 < ona> detailed eyewitness account of police abuse today, and events in the detention centre, transcribed from a phone call @11pm gmt
01:14 <@zcat_unreal> iil put in newswire article the 53237
01:14 <@zcat_unreal> its pics
01:14 < ona> http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=70411&group=webcast
01:14 < ona> actually teh 53237 'is' in a newswire article,
01:15 < ona> in the last comment:
01:15 < ona> http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=70411&group=webcast
01:15 < ona> but i htink it's worth putting a link from front
01:15 < ona> may be a bit too dramatic...
01:15 < ona> look at pics
01:17 <@ionnek_cgi> are you sure about bridge guy not wanting his name out?
01:17 < ona> no, not any more
01:17 < ona> since it seems he has changed his mind
01:17 <@zcat_unreal> pics and article in http://de.indymedia.org/2003/06/53237.shtml
01:18 <@zcat_unreal> are in
01:18 < ona> thanks
01:18 < ona> you 2 be careful with cgi, looks like you both are in cgi at same time
01:19 < ona> zcat_unreal & ionnek_cgi	
01:20 < ona> can you put 70411 or need some html?
01:20 <@ionnek_cgi> looking at your pics. 
01:21 <@ionnek_cgi> cause i don't know what they are about. 
01:21 <@ionnek_cgi> ah I know what!
01:21 <@ionnek_cgi> ana ona 
01:21 <@ionnek_cgi> do you see the link in the feature saying nothing but "pics"?
01:22 < ona> hang on going to look
01:23 < ona> ah yes
01:23 < ona> you just want to put all of them there?
01:24 <@ionnek_cgi> mhm - makes sense?
01:25 <@ionnek_cgi> i kind of forced zcat out of cgi :-)
01:25 < ona> yes does make sense
01:25 < ona> especially because we can't put pics on site
01:25 < ona> some one shuld have fixed pics manually today
01:26 < ona> andi was doing it these days
01:26 < ona> and said some one should do it in his absence
01:26 < ona> he's going to be quite pissed off tomorrow
01:26 < ona> maybe with good reason
01:26 < ona> any how - we've been too busy for pics, haven't we
01:26 < ona> that's our excuse :)
01:27 <@ionnek_cgi> pissed off? ts.
01:27 < ona> so shall i go to that article and update with pics?
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01:27 < ona> i think best to edit the article than post a comment 'cause comments don't support html
01:27 < ona> hi leonardo
01:28 < ona> don't know who you are but you're most welcome to help out
01:28 < ona> what d'you think ionnek_cgi?
01:28 <@ionnek_cgi> yeah ana edit the article - i bet noone is in admin now!
01:29 < ona> i know... we're weird nerds at 1.28am
01:29 -!- ona is now known as ona_admin
01:29 < ona_admin> makes me feel important :) (how saaaad:()
01:30 < ona_admin> ;(
01:31 <@ionnek_cgi> :-)
01:37 <@ionnek_cgi> ana did you link that to international http://www.uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=70380&group=webcast
01:37 <@ionnek_cgi> on the italians.
01:38 <@ionnek_cgi> ah yes its done
01:39 < ona_admin> yes it's done
01:39 < ona_admin> and did you link 70411?
01:39 <@sprout> hi, joycesprout back widya, does anyone want me to check french/swiss/italian site b4 i go and make a nest downstairs
01:40 <@sprout> ok, i'll take that as a yes then;-), the sound of one hand clapping
01:41 < ona_admin> yes thanks sprout
01:47 <@ionnek_cgi> what's 70411?
01:48 < ona_admin> that's sprout's report
01:49 <@ionnek_cgi> on what?
01:49 <@sprout> Breakingnews - 02-06-2003 02:00              
01:49 <@sprout> The riot was largely dispersed near place Bel Air; there was intense and massive tear gassing. About 100 people were left after the gassing, and were running from the German police. Reportedly, water cannons have also been travelling around the city center. Reportedly, a collumn of about 40 empty German police trucks is moving up the hill from the Rhone to the International District. the riot appears to be mostly made up of local activists. 
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01:49 < ona_admin> suggested head:
01:49 < ona_admin> etailed eyewitness account of police abuse today, and events in the detention centre, transcribed from a phone call @11pm gmt
01:49 < ona_admin> leonardo thought 'too much work' ;(
01:50 <@sprout> weblink for the last breaking bit...http://switzerland.indymedia.org/frmix/index.shtml
01:52 <@sprout> nothing much new on italy/paris/ireland etc - gonna check the frech site again, as there maybe something in amongst the rants on the right hand column
01:52 <@ionnek_cgi> oh fuck takes me ages to find sprouts report cause the numbers are not on the newswire!
01:55 <@vlo> uk ppl
01:55 <@vlo> i've got most pics categorised per city and theme
01:55 <@vlo> you want as well?
01:56 <@ionnek_cgi> oi!
01:56 <@ionnek_cgi> yes!
01:56 <@vlo> hehe
01:56 <@ionnek_cgi> know a goodie when i see one!
01:56 <@vlo> not all video's yet
01:56 <@ionnek_cgi> pics from where?
01:56 <@ionnek_cgi> i mean which sources/website/imcs?
01:57 <@vlo> all availiable imc's 
01:57 <@ionnek_cgi> wanna post the list on the uk newswire?
01:57 <@vlo> html
01:57 <@ionnek_cgi> then i link it to feature now.
01:57 <@ionnek_cgi> html no problem.
01:57 <@vlo> so i can post html as a comment?
01:57 <@ionnek_cgi> make a new posting. 
01:57 <@vlo> ok
01:57 <@ionnek_cgi> picture archive sunday 1
01:57 <@ionnek_cgi> or similar.
01:58 <@ionnek_cgi> cool.
01:58 <@ionnek_cgi> ana or sprout?
01:58 <@ionnek_cgi> what is gmt - uk time or continental time?
01:59 <@ionnek_cgi> must be greenwich...
01:59 <@sprout> tis greenwich mean time
01:59 <@ionnek_cgi> i am confused. 
01:59 < ona_admin> gmt is uk time
02:00 <@sprout> ionnek, love, did you find the link, do you need me to look for you
02:00 <@ionnek_cgi> when was the person who called put in detention center?
02:00 <@ionnek_cgi> i read the link.
02:01 <@sprout> she was released about 9.30, was taken from the camp about 4ish
02:01 <@ionnek_cgi> at v pm?
02:01 <@ionnek_cgi> oh shit!
02:01 <@ionnek_cgi> 11 pm!
02:01 <@ionnek_cgi> ok.
02:01 <@ionnek_cgi> thanks.
02:01 <@ionnek_cgi> will check.
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02:02 <@vlo> http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=70421&group=webcast
02:03 < ona_admin> that's another lot of links
02:05 <@sprout> so, apart from everybody getting back to annemasse ok tonight, and riots still ish going on in geneva, nothing much on the other wires that the uk site hasn't got already, except that the legal team press release in french says that about 50 activists in all are still in custody, in two different police stations, waiting to go b4 the magistrate,http://www.indymedia.ch/fr/2003/06/10267.shtml
02:06 <@sprout> in french
02:08 <@ionnek_cgi> ...linking pics...
02:09 <@vlo> http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=70418&group=webcast ROFL
02:10 <@ionnek_cgi> if you can translate the 50 in custody, and publish the translation like ronya did here...
02:10 <@ionnek_cgi> http://www.uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=70310&group=webcast
02:10 <@ionnek_cgi> ehm, talking to sprout.
02:11 <@sprout> yep, just rolling a fag,on the case babe
02:11 <@sprout> bacck in a mo,jo
02:16 <@ionnek_cgi> pics done
02:17 <@vlo> whats the permanent link to UK todays feature?
02:17 <@ionnek_cgi> doesn't yet exist.
02:17 <@ionnek_cgi> will go in nw 2morrow. why?
02:18  * vlo loves linking without having to change it next week
02:29 <@sprout> you're on your own for a moment, ana in the smallest room, i'm nearly finished with the translation
02:31 < ona_admin> ionnek, what d'you mean pics done?
02:31 < ona_admin> are you doing them manually like andi???
02:32 < ona_admin> (i'm not, although i did get the instructions)
02:32 <@ionnek_cgi> no, hee, just linked them.
02:33 <@ionnek_cgi> vlo hope we'll get the timeline into nw 2moro
02:34 <@vlo> is ok
02:38 < ona_admin> i think i've done all links so far
02:38 < ona_admin> no more, unless people start to post their stuff now
02:38 < ona_admin> i'm dying for some sleep
02:38 < ona_admin> but then work is a drug
02:39 < ona_admin> only thing is that feats are getting too long
02:39 < ona_admin> but i'm not messing around with them, i don't want to destroy mid col again :(
02:39 < ona_admin> what do you think?
02:42 < ona_admin> we're all nackered and we are not really following our own conversations
02:43 < ona_admin> quite understandably
02:43 < ona_admin> i vote for going to bed
02:43 <@ionnek_cgi> i'm going to bed, too. 
02:43 < ona_admin> we have done such a good job
02:43 <@ionnek_cgi> tomorrow is another day. 
02:43 < ona_admin> especially those who've been in cgi
02:43 < ona_admin> not me
02:43 < ona_admin> yes tomorrow is another day
02:43 <@ionnek_cgi> hihi, and we'll see if the guardian interviews jamie about usine...
02:44 <@ionnek_cgi> you too.
02:44 < ona_admin> another day is possible :) :)
02:44 <@ionnek_cgi> caurse!
02:44 <@ionnek_cgi> anouther slep is possible. 
02:44 <@ionnek_cgi> off. 
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08:37 < ona> any body up?
09:04 <@bunny> briefly
09:04 <@bunny> hi
09:09 <@chrisc> hi
09:10 < ona> hi
09:10 < ona> i'm doing some wire cleaning
09:10 < ona> pics are up
09:11 <@bunny> how does one repair pics? if quick to say or I will dig out email.
09:13 < ona> there is an email from andi in the features list
09:13 <@bunny> cheers
09:13 < ona> let's see if lists are up
09:13 < ona> no they are not
09:13 <@chrisc> the emg list will be ok
09:14 < ona> shall i send you the email?
09:14 < ona> i don't think he sent to the emg list... did he?
09:14 <@chrisc> nope, hang on
09:15 < ona> no only to tech & to features
09:15 <@chrisc> http://www.email-lists.org/pipermail/imc-uk-emergency/2003-June/000145.html
09:16 < ona> yes, v. good
09:17  * chrisc it's nice to have one fast list!
09:18 < ona> hey there is a great debate on violent-non violent action, symbolic - direct action here:
09:18 < ona> http://uk.indymedia.org:8081/front.php3?article_id=69997&group=webcast
09:19 < ona> should we highligth it or shall we leave it?
09:19 <@chrisc> i think it was linked to on the day it was posted
09:23  * ona checking
09:23 < ona> (actually could i have that list of links?)
09:23 <@chrisc> do you want a new one?
09:24 < ona> last one is fine
09:24 <@chrisc> ok
09:24 < ona> the last one is fine
09:24 <@chrisc> http://atomism.demon.co.uk/2003/06/links.txt
09:24 < ona> btw chrisc how did you like our meeting on wednesday?
09:24 <@chrisc> that is only yesterdays feature
09:25 <@chrisc> it was ok, v. laid back :-)
09:25 < ona> if you had been a new person, would you come back or was it too tedios/inaccessible/rude...
09:25 <@chrisc> hmmm, dunno
09:26 <@chrisc> the first one I went to was ok, but i knew people from email / irc before i met people already...
09:26 < ona> we are a bit concerned that very few people stay after their first meeting
09:26 < ona> yes that helps
09:27 <@chrisc> i guess on danger is that if it's clear that everybody else knows everybody already it can appear to be a bit closed to outsiders...
09:27 <@chrisc> it is important to talk and be friendly to new people...
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09:28 < ona> we try...
09:28 <@chrisc> i know :-)
09:28 < ona> but then they usually dont even come to the pub afterwards
09:28 < ona> and if we are not late, we're so busy before the meeting talking things
09:29 < ona> and we have become close friends too, which does not help new people really
09:29 <@chrisc> yeah, it's weird, for me one of the best things about meetings is going to the pub afterwards...!
09:30 < ona> for me too. one time i even avoided the meeting and just went to the pub
09:30 <@chrisc> :-)
09:30 <@chrisc> in sheffield we are at a very different stage
09:30 <@chrisc> we have yet to have the big discuissions about what, why, who we are etc...
09:31 < ona> aaahh.. yes you have to go through that
09:31 <@chrisc> yep!
09:31 < ona> when i met the group that stage was done so it was easy
09:31 < ona> anyhow: i've done a search in that page and couldn't find the article id
09:32 <@chrisc> that it because it was probably in the fearture from the day before..
09:32 <@chrisc> shall i do a txt version of all the g8 features?
09:32 < ona> ah so that page you sent here is only about one single feature...
09:32 <@chrisc> yes
09:33 <@chrisc> sorry i thiught that is what you wanted
09:33 < ona> what i do is, i copy from the front page ALL the text and paste it in mozilla composer
09:33 < ona> no, that's fine
09:33 < ona> then i go to the html source
09:33 < ona> select all again, copy, and paste in txt program
09:33 < ona> then do a search
09:33 <@chrisc> do you know that in moz you can select _some_ text and do right click, 'view selection source'
09:33 < ona> woops
09:33 < ona> _very_ helpful, that
09:34 <@chrisc> then copy that text into a text editor and then search it or just search within moz source viewer
09:34 < ona> hang on, i'll try it
09:34 <@chrisc> it's one of the really nice moz features :-)
09:35 < ona> really nice - a lot less laborious
09:35 < ona> the things one learns from you guys!!
09:36 < ona> and then you laugh when i call you a techie :)
09:36 < ona> :))
09:36 <@chrisc> well i'm not a realy one!
09:36 <@chrisc> other handy mozilla tips....
09:36 < ona> that's true, you're also human :)
09:37 < ona> oh yes please!
09:37 <@chrisc> Ctrl T -- open new tab
09:37 < ona> yes i discovered that one
09:37 <@chrisc> Middle click (with 3 button mouse) on a link to open in new tab
09:37 <@chrisc> ummm
09:38 < ona> that's new
09:38 <@chrisc> right click, view page info -- has tab with all links in document etc
09:38 < ona> oops with my mouse it opened it in a new window
09:38 <@chrisc> ah ha, ok that can be fixed
09:39 < ona> but doesn't matter cause i'm addited to the right click and then 'open in new tab'
09:39 < ona> my mouse has a wheel, not a middle buton
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09:39 <@chrisc> Edit -> Preferences -> Navigator -> Tabbed Browser -> select open tabs not windows for middle click
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09:40 <@chrisc> clicking on the wheel is the same as clicking middle button of 3 button mouse
09:40 < ona> hey the right click to get all links is really useful one!
09:40 < ona> even faster than selecting all & view source!
09:40 <@chrisc> yeah
09:41 < ona> any how i did search in there and there is no 69997
09:41 <@chrisc> middle click for new tab is quicker than right clicking too :-)
09:41 < ona> yes but it takes me to another window...
09:41 <@chrisc> ah, ok, perhaps the link to it got removed, i thiught maqui had linked to it...
09:41 < ona> hi pingouin 
09:41 <@chrisc> this is how to fix new window problem:
09:42 <@chrisc> Edit -> Preferences -> Navigator -> Tabbed Browser -> select open tabs 
09:42 <@chrisc>                 not windows for middle click
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09:43 < ona> hey thanks
09:43 < ona> hi linux
09:43 < ona> bunny are you repairing pictures?
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09:44 < ona> now that there are a few of us here i'm going to explain how ionnek organised us all
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09:45 < ona> when there are many ppl here there are conversations and a lot of sharing info apart from working on the feature
09:45  * chrisc i have to go to work in a mo...
09:45 < ona> this makes it difficult for the person in cgi to keep an eye in the links, copy and paste into cgi
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09:45 < ona> remember how pissed off i got on mayday
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09:46 < ona> so they opened this new channel, #ukcgi
09:46 < anarchobabe> hia
09:46 < ona> hia
09:46 < anarchobabe> how are you
09:46 < ona> (let me explain this)
09:46 < anarchobabe> am in intergalactic village now, 
09:46 < ona> so only _prepared_ links, with text & everything
09:46 < ona> go to ukcgi
09:47 < ona> rumours and other conversations stay in uk
09:47 < ona> so person doing cgi has this channel clean with useful things to put in features
09:47 < ona> i think it's a good practice that we should go on with
09:47 < ona> <end>
09:48 < ona> from g8:
09:48 < ona> 	cops are still in geneva i guess ... massively ...
09:49 < ona> I am back in grenoble and didn't see any cops buses on the highway
09:49 < ona> from xpert... in g8
09:49 < ona> so anarchobabe, sorry i haven't learnt the locations, wher is intergalactic?
09:50 < ona> have you heard or seen dave and/or peni?
09:50 < anarchobabe> many pple are leaving or have already left
09:50  * chrisc i wonder how vince is doing...
09:50 < anarchobabe> it would be nice to mention that demo in Annemasse yesterday night was a solidarity demo 
09:51 < anarchobabe> against repression In Lausanne, we did not lnow of other repression yet
09:51 < anarchobabe> and we invited population to eat with us and discuss at the place
09:52 < anarchobabe> police first wanted to block us, then some negotiations of sb so it was okay
09:52 < pingouin> hi everyone ....
09:52 < anarchobabe> and then we had a good time till the socialist workers frontgroup came with their megaphone preaching about nonviolence
09:52 < anarchobabe> and a fake samba band dressed in pink and silver
09:53 < anarchobabe> this lot are disgusting
09:53 <@chrisc> how was the samba band fake?
09:53 < anarchobabe> we agreed this protest in vaaag, the antiauthoritarian village and organisation
09:54 < anarchobabe> and then agreed we want to have a nonconfrontational demo with inclusion of public
09:55 < anarchobabe> no spraying no smashing
09:55 < anarchobabe> and then we arrived at this place
09:55 < anarchobabe> started to have our food not bombs
09:55 < anarchobabe> pple starting to juggle and fire eating and pois and stuff
09:55 < anarchobabe> quite nice atmosphere
09:56 < anarchobabe> but of course you cant go anywhere without a frontgroup trying to hijack a potest 
09:56 < anarchobabe> preaching everybody 
09:58 < anarchobabe> jumping in the middle of our gathering with a megaphone
09:58 < anarchobabe> "we should have a non violent protest here"
09:59 < anarchobabe> aarrgh
09:59 < anarchobabe> not passing the mic
09:59 < anarchobabe> telling everybody what to do
09:59 < anarchobabe> trying to set up new rules
10:00 < anarchobabe> but we already basically agreed the same in the council beforehand in the villages
10:01 < anarchobabe> it was just for domination and putting up a hierarchy
10:01 <@chrisc> ok people i have to go to work...
10:01 < anarchobabe> like usual
10:01 < anarchobabe> end
10:03 < anarchobabe> by the way harry escaped from Lausanne yesterday
10:03 < anarchobabe> saying it was fairly obvious police would be rading the camp
10:03 < anarchobabe> so they packed their things and went through the woods
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10:05 < ronya> ok mates morning!
10:06 < ronya> got bad news if u already dont know it: guy got his leg seriously torned yesterday of a conc granate will make rep now was on phone to him for hours this morning
10:06 < anarchobabe> fake samba band: as in not being rhytms of resistance and demanding certain conditions and behaviour of protesters in order to participate at protest
10:06 < ronya> he is ok - but his leg not he had 2 hours operation etc etc
10:06 < ronya> a new operation today etc
10:06 < anarchobabe> hi ronya, where are you
10:06 < anarchobabe> am in intergalactic village in Annemasse
10:07 < ronya> not in ch
10:07 < ronya> ok back to guy - associatred press went to hospital yestreday interviewed him in the midst of morphin and his name is out now
10:08 < ronya> so...i doing report and keep contact with him< from hospital
10:08 < ronya> a few instructions
10:08 < ronya> sorry anarchobabe just a bit upset as guy is one really good mate of ours and part of the crew in indys uk london collective
10:09 < ronya> instructions: 1. i upload report 2. send url in wire 3. could anybody make mini feature as corporate press will get it out and he is an imc uk reporter
10:10 < ronya> 4. could somebody get out pressrelease in general to press on situ generally yesterday: lots of badly injured people from granates
10:10 < ronya> guys situ: he will not be able to walk properly nervs are ripped off and muscle tear in pieces
10:11 < anarchobabe> I dont know who is active in this channel at the moment
10:11 < ronya> somebody listening ?
10:11 < ronya> ok narchobabe i just have few minutes will make rep dont worry take care over there!
10:11 < ronya> we manage this from over here
10:11 < anarchobabe> there is apparantly a channel uk_cgi or so
10:12 < anarchobabe> i am listening but have limited access in Annemasse
10:12 < ronya> if u see p + d from london could you please ask them to call guy and he is main genevva hospital he wants to get in touch with them
10:12 < anarchobabe> sorry cant help
10:12 < ronya> no worries ab!
10:12 < ronya> take care out there!
10:12 < anarchobabe> there is report about him ob=n bbc
10:13 < ona> hang on im on phone
10:13 < anarchobabe> I heard gossip vaaag might have a police visit
10:13 < anarchobabe> will need to check it out
10:13 < anarchobabe> just sb storming in tent
10:15 < ronya> ok cu
10:15 < anarchobabe> ok will try to have quick look and then return
10:25 < ona> all: channel us #ukggi
10:26 < ona> spraut says from bbc online:
10:26 <@chrisc> #ukcgi not #ukggi!
10:26 < ona> they guy that got (sorry about ukggi):)
10:26 < ona> the guy that got his leg torn and underwent 2 hour operation
10:26 < ona> gave his name as Dan Smallwood
10:27 < ona> so unless guy is using that name
10:27 < ona> or there are 'two' journos with a leg torned...
10:27 < ona> pse say
10:27 < ona> now: organisation
10:27 < ona> some one needs to go to cgi
10:27 < ona> and #ukcgi
10:27 < ona> (this time is right)
10:27 < ona> #ukcgi
10:28 < ona> then to ukcgi only confirmed reports go,
10:28 < ronya> his name is guy smallman its ok to use his name i am in direct contact with him
10:28 < ona> fuck that means it's two of them
10:28 < ronya> i am doing report lets make mini  paragraph in feat and pressrelease to corportratepress
10:28 < ona> hang on ronya if it's two of them we need to confirm
10:29 < ona> who is in g8?
10:29 < ona> i am but from the kind of people that there are here it looks that i'm the only one with cgi access and i can't be every where
10:30 < ronya> 2 ? THER IS ONE JOURNALIST WITH LEG TEAR ITS GUY SMALLMAN
10:30 < ona> but bbc says otherwise
10:30 < ronya> WHERE DID U GET DAN SMALLWOOD?
10:30 < ronya> bbc says what?
10:30 < ona> bbc online
10:30 < ona> ronya read:
10:30 < ronya> says what? they interview after the operation when he is in a coma of morphine might have got name wrong
10:30 < ona> spraut was online until 2 last night
10:31 < ronya> its guy smallman it tell u
10:31 < ona> but there can be another one!!!
10:32 < ona> hang on i;m going to set up spraut up so that she can speak here
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10:33 < ronya> ok check the other one i got in only one report from excat the dsame position as guy yesterday however doesnt hinder to get out about guy and then add on.
10:33 < ona> that's true
10:33 < ronya> i finnished and upload now dont have more then a few minutes then exams luuuuv
10:33 < ona> again, chris, anarchobabe: can you go to edit cgi or would you like to go to #g8 and try to confirm some of this?
10:33 < sprout> hi, everyone - it looks like it could be the same, just bbc journo got name wrong, let's hope so, 1 is bad enough, 2 is twice as worser!i check it now
10:34 <@chrisc> sorry i'm at work now and really need to be doing other stuff, so best just assume i'm just lurking...
10:35 < ronya> i think they got name wrong the idiots as poor guy was in a coma of pain spoke for hours with him this morning so i better get going with report please if dave and pen contact u say to give guy a call on mobile and he is main geneva hospital
10:36 < sprout> quote from bbc online...And news photographer Dan Smallman, 31, from Brixton, south London, suffered serious muscle damage to his leg after a stun grenade exploded at his feet in Geneva. 
10:39 < ona> ok people i'm getting to cgi
10:39 < ona> oh god we need a text for a feature for today...
10:40 < ona> well maybe not so many of us so we can just post here
10:41 < ona> ronya for how long can you stay here?
10:41 < ona> can you help with a little text?
10:41 < ona> what was the title suggested yesterday?
10:42 < ronya> only a few more minutes
10:42 < ona> what the nice title suggested yesterday?
10:42 < ronya> no escribiendo report from guy
10:42 < ona> my computer got switched off so i lost the logs
10:42 < ona> aaarrgh
10:43 < ona> anarchobabe, have you got the logs?
10:43  * chrisc i could post the logs to the emg list...
10:44 < sprout> so that's sorted that out - i have the address of martyn's hospital (by the way, we can use his name now, with permission, which is more than the mainstream asked $ !!;-)) - to send postcards to - i'm just checking , then i'll put it on the site - shall we do the same for guy - or just privately for those who know him - anyway, no rush, niether of them are running away, good luck with your exam, and see you later (after you've got top marks)
10:44 < sprout> ronya
10:44 < ronya> yes
10:44 < ona> thanks chrisc i didn't want to bother you
10:44 < ronya> no probs using guys name its all over and he said its fine
10:45 < ona> ronya read sprout's text just before your name
10:45 <@chrisc> ona: is that a yes or a no!?
10:45 < ona> yes please!!
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10:45 <@chrisc> ona from how many days?
10:46 < ona> last 12 hours is enough
10:46 < ona> roughly
10:46 < pm> hello folks - pen and dave here about to go see guy in hospital
10:46 < ona> thanks pm
10:46 < ona> that's excellent news
10:47 < pm> can anyone get in touch with rach and javi or maqui?
10:47 < ona> who are you pm?
10:47 < ona> i'm ana
10:48 < pm> pen and dave
10:48 < ona> rach & javi away
10:48 < ona> maqui sleeping
10:48 < ona> pm?
10:49 < sprout> PM hello sweeties - nice to hear from you!!
10:49 < pm> could you ask maqui (when he is up...) to give holly a call on home phone
10:49 < pm> and say i am ok as i have lost me mobile!!
10:50 < sprout> hey, I have the number if you want me to call - i spoke to her yesterday and she sends her love
10:50 < ona> hello dears dears
10:50 < pm> ello sprout :)) yes please - thankx
10:50 < sprout> cool, consider it done!!
10:50 < ona> i'll txt maqui now!!!
10:50 < pm> good that  lousanne detentions were over quickly yesterday :)

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