[imc-uk-emergency] [feature] proposal on cyberactions/attacks

[ionnek]

shit that the feats list is down.

I'd like to have some more input on the cyberspace feature.

I agree its best to splet the 2 paragraphs, put them in 2 features.
but - maybe ignorant!- think that the al jazeera down on its own is not 
enough for a feature - wellllll - but menwith hill and fairford were single 
events too - so dunno....
and, commenting on your new version, Chris: I don't like publishing feats 
that say - may have been under dd attack. what we know is that its down. 
and you found that great register article analysing possible reasons. I 
would leave it at that - site down, backup pages, possible reasons on register.

about the cyberaction para - supportive? it just mentions some. not even 
all ddos. points to a discussion, mentions policiing, leaves it to the 
reader what they think about it. the contrast page intro makes clear that 
ddos attacks are not something everyone agrees on.

and, yes, for me the decision on wether I agree to a cyberaction or not is 
not defined by the tech used, but by the degree of connection with social 
movements, choosing the right target, being fair to participants (not like 
that jerk who inserted a script in the newswire and  made you participate 
in an attack wether you liked it or not).

but I think our opinions don't need to be discussed in depth for a feature 
- we don't need to agree.

Marion




At 17:51 28/03/03, Chris Croome wrote:
>Hi
>
>Following is the bit I have re-edited, I think this is OK now
>(unless I have filled it with spelin mistakes ;-).
>
>On Fri 28-Mar-2003 at 05:07:24PM +0000, ionnek wrote:
> >
> > still not happy cause al jazeera attack is not what I perceive as
> > a sensible political action in cyberspace!!
>
>I personally don't support any of this stuff (attacks on left or
>right wing sites) and the re-written second part of this feature is
>far too supportive of actions such as the electrohippy stuff IMHO,
>see the email this is a reply to.
>
>Perhaps it's best to just omit it and have a debate on it? Am I in a
>monority of one in opposing the electrohippy stuff?
>
>Chris
>
>
>White on blue:  WAR ON THE INTERNET
>
>Yellow:         Cyberattacks against Al-Jazeera website?
>
><p>The US/UK war against Iraq, as well as the protests against it, have
>implications on the internet. The
><a href="http://english.aljazeera.net">English version</a> of the
><a href="http://www.aljazeera.net">Al-Jazeera website</a> might have been <a
>href="http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=59631&amp;group=webcast">attacked</a> 
>
>in the form of a <acronym title="Distributed Denial of Service
>Attack">DDoS</a>
>attack.  The
><a
>href="http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=59685&amp;group=webcast">days 
>
>
>old site</a> has been intermittently available but
><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/29984.html">there
>are doubts about the cause of the downtime</a>.<br>
>English language news sites in the region: <a
>href="http://uk.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=59747&amp;group=webcast">Unofficial 
>
>
>Al Jazeerah sites</a> | <a href="http://english.daralhayat.com/">Dar Al
>Hayat</a>  | <a
>href="http://www.indymedia.org/archive/features/2003/03/2003-03.html#8144">Reports 
>
>
>and Resources from Baghdad</a> |
></p>
>
>
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