[imc-uk-emergency] [feature] proposal on cyberactions/attacks

[ionnek]

hi,
I don't think its for indymedia to encourage cyberattacks.
But IMHO, indymedia is a space to discuss them. There are very many 
different ways. Like the people who called the army recruitment office in 
their chats and ask them lots of questions.

I think we can, even have to report about cyber actions, as we are 
reporting about demos. We report about road blockages, lock-ons, sit-ins 
etc, although I think that not everybody in indymedia is in favour of these 
actions.

I find the discussion about ddos attacks very interesting and would prefer 
to have them in the comments on the newswire rather than on this list.
actually, lists are up again!

Ionnek

At 21:14 28/03/03, Sara Melendro wrote:

>Hiya,
>
>I think Andrew has an important point with the issue of liability. In any 
>case, I'm not particularly excited about cyberattacks which are just gonna 
>fill the pages with lots of shouting and little use. But then again, if 
>they do it, we not gonna just take either I guess (maybe tehre is 
>alternatives?)
>
>well, i jus tried to give my input but don't really have an answer (would 
>like to hear more views), but i somehow don't like the idea of the 
>cyberattacks.
>
>sara
>
>  Andrew Robertson <sceptic60 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>Hello all.
>
>I have some queries about the feature proposal on DDOS attacks. I am
>wandering whether there is concrete evidence that the new al-jazeera english
>site was attacked or is it maybe. Could it have been because of so many
>hits, or could it have been a technical problem at thee end. The point i
>guess if it isn't known for sure then it's a problem putting it up as a
>feature as it appears to be a maybe this happened.
>
>The other objection is the link to a call for ddos attacks as anything in
>the middle column is an editorial control, therefore potentially making us
>liable.
>
>That's my concerns
>
>Cheers and respect
>
>Andy
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> >From: Chris Croome
> >To: imc-uk-emergency at email-lists.org
> >CC: imc-uk-features at lists.indymedia.org
> >Subject: Re: [imc-uk-emergency] [feature] proposal on cyberactions/attacks
> >Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 18:50:34 +0000
> >
> >Hi
> >
> >On Fri 28-Mar-2003 at 06:02:57PM +0000, ionnek wrote:
> > >
> > > shit that the feats list is down.
> >
> >Yeah :-(
> >
> > > I agree its best to splet the 2 paragraphs, put them in 2 features.
> > > but - maybe ignorant!- think that the al jazeera down on its own is not
> > > enough for a feature
> >
> >Hmmm, good point, perhaps they are better together after all?
> >
> > > and, commenting on your new version, Chris: I don't like
> > > publishing feats that say - may have been under dd attack. what we
> > > know is that its down. and you found that great register article
> > > analysing possible reasons. I would leave it at that - site down,
> > > backup pages, possible reasons on register.
> >
> >Yes, I agree.
> >
> > > but I think our opinions don't need to be discussed in depth for a
> > > feature - we don't need to agree.
> >
> >True, in any case the debate can only be had when the lists are back
> >up...
> >
> >Chris
> >
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