[matilda] BANNED FOR A WEEK..

[Becky]

the subject line and content of this email leave it unclear how long the ban
is for.
I think it would be helpful if someone involved in the ban said on this list
why it was done.
There are some very legitimate questions being asked and they illustrate why
some of us have been saying there is a need to sort out 'ground rules' asap
eg::

>Does a small group of people have the right to take this decision or are we
going to work on consensus?
the 2 need not be mutually exclusive - this illustrates why we need to talk
about quorate meetings (on next weeks agenda), and generally how many people
can make a decision and the decision making role of the monday meeting, but
also (as we've previously discussed) there is a need for those present at
the time of an incident to be able to make an urgent decision (eg: re
security), but I feel there is still alot left unclear.

> Is there a means of conflict resolution to  resolve this?
Again this has been mentioned but as far as I know there is no current
group/procedure for this

> Would it be right to attend the meeting on monday despite the ban?
As a 'ground rule' / 'guiding principle' type thing I wouldn't want
individuals who've been involved in the collective to be banned without a
means of explaining their actions, but I don't want the monday meeting to be
dominated by this.  I think it will need to be discussed on monday whether
or not the individual is there and I'd ask we set a strict time limit on it
and use it to try to get some 'ground rule' / 'guiding principle' type thing
from it.  If the individual is willing to abide by the time limit and
approach (ie not just bring it back to the personal) then I'd say they
should attend.
Can those involved in the ban give a view, particularly if they see a reason
why attendance is not appropriate?

I hope this helps
Also I agree we need to hammer out the names in emails thing - personally
I'd rather people didn't use mine
Becky


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <worldwarfree at riseup.net>
To: <matilda at lists.aktivix.org>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 3:25 PM
Subject: [matilda] BANNED FOR A WEEK..


>
> Today Dan Dougaled Mark Ben.. (though not sure what role ben played)
banned me
> from Matlida. Of course i hold a very different perspective on this.. Of
course
> bring this to the list in placing everything around myself.. However this
is not
> the intent..
>
> There was no group talk on this i feel for such a ban to take place it has
to
> goto the widder meeting ie monday.. They have given me reson for the ban
and it
> stems from the e mail sent wed about my feelings of last weeks meeting..
>
> At the social thurday night this come up and was expected from myself.. A
friend
> johnathen played a game of conflict resolution.. This come to an end..
However
> the issue still continued when people left..
>
> I desire not to be the focuss or a drain on the real work and for my
issues to
> become a centre of the MATILDA project..
>
> There are lots of thoughts as to why i feel i was banned and of course
lots of
> resons given from those who have banned me also given..
>
> I need to ask what are people feelings and thoughts.. Does a small group
of
> people have the right to take this decision or are we going to work on
> consensus? Is there a means of conflict resolution to resolve this? Would
it be
> right to attend the meeting on monday despite the ban?
>
> This e mail has been checked and seen by ********* and also i have spoken
to
> ************ for a short while as he was there when i was banned..
>
> I do feel some people have been well crass in banning me and would like a
wider
> perspective on this therefore before mondays meeting it would be cool to
meet
> to find a path of resoultion.. My thoughts are simply just to walk from
the
> project but i feel i have still more to give and that others will not be
happy
> with what has happend over the last 48 hours you can ring me with a time
so
> some of us can meet and resolve this...
>
> Kind regards
> 0742..
>
>
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