[matilda] Proposals for next Monday & Inslusivity

[R&A]

>  please note this offer is there because i feel the art o5 event was to
>> date the most positive event matilda has done goto
>> http://artsheffield.org/ click on the link venues mid way down there is
>> link to matilda - how important is this?
>> 


Yes we're there, and we were not there a few days ago, 0742, peace with you,

and BTW, there might have been some slight misunderstandings and some 
confusion for not having attended all meetings and other circumstances, 
but let's assure Matilda that her art collective is running, healthy and 
strong, as something good has been created out of this,

Nothing like a private club, as gavin says, and in relation to the wiki 
and the contents there, it's constantly under construction: also, people 
may understand that we are not going to copy like copycats what other 
collectives are doing on their wikis. Everybody can rest assured that we 
are trying to be as inclusive as possible, but the opposite isn't true, 
is it?

Ironically, the person who is raising these ambiguous accusations has 
himself put himself into a lot of trouble concerning finances (not 40 
miserable pounds my friend but much more...)

So why don't you look at your own business rather than throwing shit on 
Art05 organizers and efforts? BTW, with occassion of art05, thanks to 
Mark's and curators' hard work, Matilda's collective has got rid of the 
asbestos problem.

amp






worldwarfree at riseup.net wrote:

> gavin wrote
> Following a (cordial!) discussion with some of the art collective
> after the meeting tonight...
> 
> 
> no it was not though gavin you was aiming to keep the peace others it was
> just a blatant attack upon those involved in art 05 and the art collective
> and i speak for myself as i would not desire to speak for others there are
> no leaders for the free:
> 
> again another meeting i left feeling negative thinking what the fuck
> allright the middle class are into there meetings like there acountability
> and yes i can deal and likewise see the need however i have no desire or
> need to involved in such a negative aspect.
> 
> all way through the meeting and this is just a feeling there was some
> people aiming to confrontational me i come with open arms and love.
> 
> i made all the effort to keep the peace however if there are people who
> are going to use the fact art 05 fucked up with the bar (if they did) and
> did not here i offerd to cover any cost concerning the loss so that those
> who have paid for the bear do not lose.
> 
> please note this offer is there because i feel the art o5 event was to
> date the most positive event matilda has done goto
> http://artsheffield.org/ click on the link venues mid way down there is
> link to matilda - how important is this?
> 
> it means those who own matilda ie yorkshire forword are seeing the
> positive that is going down their along with the rest of the ciq people
> this only can aid us when the legal shit starts as when and if we goto the
> courts our resons and arguments for using matilda gaine strenth
> 
> if we look at what is happing regards mappen street the plans to demolish
> that venue we need to offer people like electic blanket a home they have a
> gig on the 17th indeed im of there in the few days to have a chat with the
> rnib who run mappin street to get contact info for other who use the space
> tell them about matilda
> 
> matilda should not and never be about just haveing good times those good
> times come with strugle idd call this the class struggle i'll leave you
> with a part of what ben wrote and this takes us to inclusivity
> 
> ben wrote
> Matilda is a right important place for me right now. I often wonder where
> people, especially the younger members of the collective, have come from in
> their journeys to Matilda so far. I have a suspicion that many of them, not
> all, may come from quite liberal, middle class families. You see (and here I
> write some personal stuff which doesn't belong in a list e-mail at all but I
> feel the need to say it because I feel the need to wear it on my chest so to
> speak) I have grown up in the Sheffield council estates. In S5, one of the
> most 10% most highly deprived wards in the country statistically speaking.
> That I have come to have a degree (not in politics I'm afraid, K) when 98%
> of my fellow school colleagues didn't even go on to further education is one
> of very lucky circumstance only (my brothers and sisters  set the precedent
> by going to university, but before them neither my mum nor dad got the
> opportunity too).
> 
> What I'm coming too here is not the degree, a piece of paper which I now
> hardly think of at all; its rather that special opportunity to see the world
> from so many different perspectives in such a short time, it's given me the
> chance to come in to Matilda with some confidence (but still not great
> confidence) and to come furnished with creative and open-minded ideas that
> are a result of being exposed to so many inspiring people over the last
> several years. For most working class people though, the story is not the
> same. These people would not have the confidence to come and wave their arms
> around in a silly fashion at meetings. They would not have the confidence to
> cook for loads of people. They wouldn't have the confidence to be clowns.
> They instead laugh at such things; the kids of Parsons Cross would ridicule
> them; and who the hell could blame them?
> 
> indeed who could?
> 
> one love as allways
> smoke the weed free the mind
> rastaman 0742
> 
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