[matilda] Social centres, funding and the PGA Hallmarks

R&A robin_amparo at tiscali.co.uk
Sat Oct 8 22:27:48 BST 2005


"So... how do we get to know each other better, so that our arguments
are conducted within a framework where no-one fears that anyone else
wants them to walk away? That's the only way we're going to learn from
each other. "

said Dougald,

But i'm afraid he missed the point here that understanding may develop 
along time, a long time perhaps; not on a pre-arranged session classroom 
attended with a preconceived idea in your minds. That's not the only way 
to learn from each other, but at least -- excellent idea it is, anyway--

> It might even be worth thinking about running some workshops on 
>> constructive emailing,

that's somebody else constructive idea... BTW aren't you sick and tired 
of so much constructivism and positivism, which denies the possibility 
of destructionism and negativism, as if they were not presnet in our 
lives, as if death was not a condition of life.

**amp


Chris Malins wrote:

> I think that there is also a most excellent demonstration here of the 
> limitations of electronic correspondence compared to actual face-to-face 
> discussion. It is hardly unusual for this list (or the other previous 
> equivalents) to spawn increasingly acrimonious discussions cause by the 
> accidental semantics (or missed punchlines - Cuthbert, you're a twit! I 
> thought it was quite funny) of email. Indeed, I can think of individuals 
> who never seem other than polite and respectful in person, and often as 
> not seem nothing other than spiky, abrasive and insensitive via the 
> medium of email, which is an interesting challenge to engaging with them 
> (which is not necessarily to say that I know them from this group, but 
> there are some similarities).
> 
> It might even be worth thinking about running some workshops on 
> constructive emailing, if people were able not to be too patronised by 
> this, and if someone actually felt competent to lead it.
> 
> For my twopence on PGA, I am relieved that the group last night see to 
> have come to an exceptionally sensible conclusion, as indicated by its 
> similarity to what I was saying all along ;-)
> 
> Love and hugs,
> 
> Chris,
> 
> PS. thats only metaphorical hugs, if you try to touch me, I'll kill ya...
> 
> gavin at cyber-rights.net wrote:
> 
>> Clowns to the rescue!...
>>
>> Dougald has a point. So...at the last clown meeting, we proposed that 
>> after a Monday meeting in a couple of weeks, we'd like to take 
>> everyone down to the basement, and play some games and make you all be 
>> silly, in a way that will (trust us!) bring everyone a bit more 
>> together as a group, and develop a bit of love and trust between 
>> everyone. But you're going to have to leave your cynicism at the door. 
>> We'd love it if lots of you can come, and we promise it'll be lots of 
>> fun.
>>
>> xxx
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 03:17:08 -0700 dougald hine 
>> <writetodougald at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think what this morning's little performance has shown is just how
>>> much anxiety and mistrust coexists with the real sense of community
>>> and friendship that is what I love about Matilda.
>>>
>>> In fact, in a way, I think what Cuthbert did is similar to what
>>> Jonathan did that night at the Thursday social - a playful (& painful)
>>> exercise that unmasks dynamics...
>>>
>>> So... how do we get to know each other better, so that our arguments
>>> are conducted within a framework where no-one fears that anyone else
>>> wants them to walk away? That's the only way we're going to learn from
>>> each other.
>>>
>>> It sounds to me like those who were there last night took a really
>>> sane and respectful attitude to the group as a whole. Thank you!
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Dougald Hine
>>> 46 Alderson Road, Sheffield S2 4UD
>>> (+44)(0)7810 650213
>>>
>>> www.dougald.co.uk
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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