[matilda] Clarity over Gig space collective proposals

Helen and Nick slendermeans1 at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Oct 21 18:45:14 BST 2005


Hi all, 

Matilda Gig Space Collective Proposals

A bit of confusion over what the decisions were about
the gig space collective at Monday's meeting .
Hopefully the outline of how things developed and
where things stand below will clarify.

1. The initial proposal by the MGSC in the summer
prior to work starting was for DIY gig space, working
with bands and collectives that we felt invested in
creating counterculture music scenes. Ideally to help
these DIY scenes flourish and attract these people
into the matilda orbit. Much discussion about how this
would work and likely amounts of money involved
- to cover costs of the bands (train tickets, petrol,
van hire etc) 
- external organising collectives costs (posters,
flyers, PA hire, feeding the touring bands - as DIY
promoters often have to do), 
- the small amount of unlikely surplus that would go
to the bands;
- donation to matilda, which would be worked out by
the MGS on a case by case basis, depending on the size
of the event, bearing in mind that some small pub
venues are free. Also considering what matilda could
make on doing a bar.

A typical gig looks like this - 3/4 bands (usually
from all over the UK, but some on tour from abroad),
£3-5 in on the door, 30-100 people attending. Costs
for a band say coming from UK could be £10-40 petrol,
van hire for the day to get kit over makes it a lot
more. Those coming by train even more. A touring band
needs to recoup over the tour money for flights, van
hire and driver costs per day, costs for meals and
extras.

The proposal was agreed and work started in the
basement.

2. Matilda art, cafe and GS collectives were given
autonomy to organise the respective spaces. MGS
collective does this by inviting people wanting to use
the space to come to the GSC meetings 7pm on a Monday
and talking through the nature of the event, the
limitations of matilda and resource implications. Also
primarily to see if the proposed events are suitable
to the consensus we work under.

3.  All gigs (as have been so far), like other events
(C90, parties, Art 05) at matilda are then proposed at
the Monday main meeting, discussed and hopefully
agreement given.

4. Since the initial proposal in (1) was agreed, there
have been questions raised as to why and how much of
the surplus over costs should go to the bands with
various ideas put forward (all to matilda, some to
matilda and some to the bands etc, other causes rather
than matilda). The proposal at the monday meeting was
that people wanting to do gigs should submit some kind
of accounts as to costs and where the money would be
going. MGSC felt that this was in appropriate and
likely to scare people from using the space (when we
want to attract people into matilda), the amounts of
money involved are small (e.g. in the unlikely
scenario of £100 extra being given to a band, this
equates to like £20 per band member), and using our
discretion as agreed in (1) we would be working with
people that would be investing extra back into the
community ( covering costs from 'failed gigs', new
skins for drums, doing zines, labels, help bands pay
for practice space).

5. The MGSC blocked the proposal to have the
"financial information' section inserted to the
"events blueprint" and preferred that the collective's
discretion could be counted on. The compromise was
that MGSC would be allowed to work things as agreed in
(1) using its discretion, and how this was working
reviewed in 2 months time.

Sorry this is long, but thought it would be useful for
people to have the fuller picture, if they weren't
able to make last Mondays meeting.

cheers Nick




	
	
		
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