[matilda] Doug the man and atw

Kathleen Holliday otter at blueyonder.co.uk
Mon Oct 24 19:19:11 BST 2005


"This mailing list is definitely a pain in the arse sometimes. But the
list isn't everything that happens at Matilda - it's just somewhere
where the more long-winded of us thrash out our sometimes very tedious
arguments. Judging what Matilda achieves by these emails is a bit like
measuring the output of a factory by the conversations that go on in
the canteen."
Beaurocrasy eh? Long winded arguments, wow you sound so Important and Super Cool.

The content of conversation in a factory canteen is made by it's workers. The output is produced by it's workers, they are directly related. Unless of course you think the white collars count for something.

"Your remarks are a reminder that we waste too much energy on silly
inward-focused arguments"
Beaurocrasy again! A symptom of capitalism.

" If your political theory is in denial
about the basic ridiculousness of human beings"
No it isnt. I feel we all have a sacred human presence but many of us don't recognise it in others

"If you had a lot of power, with the same
attitude, it would probably make you genocidal."
I have enough power to change my immediate suroundings as does everyone if only they knew they did. 

"2. What fantastic things are you doing to change the world - except
for criticizing everyone else for failing to change it?"
I speak out and propose solutions, some of these are already being implemented. 

ATW
"Your thinking reveals an us and you division. Why do you feel so
alienated? To me it seems like you are thinking of yourself as a
consumer and have expectations of us, the providers."

It isn't me that's labelling myself by belonging to a club, or organisation. I'm just a survivor who is surviving. I chose my path and I am not alienated, just extremely angry at the political, environmental and commercial mess that is in our human-collective part of the life of this beautiful planet.  It just seems to someone on the outside looking in that clowns, parties, beaurocratic meetings and coffee making is not relevant and is not taken seriously by the 200 people who do have real power to change things. I can't put my acheivements on a public mailing list but I have done some and made some changes for the better and influenced the way that some people with more power than I have are doing things. 
The best thing anyone young enough with a concience can do is to do what I said: do a politics degree and go into the heart of Mordor and chuck the bloody ring down the mountain.

I haven't had the time as a single mum with kids at school to come from outside Sheffield to Matilda, I was thinking of doing you all a mural as I have done a few before and am quite nifty at it but I may as well go and do one at the old folks home.
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