[Radical_childcare] CAIC and three billy goats gruff

[Gail Chester]

I think the basic idea of the play is a good one, but I am not happy with it being Hitler who acts as the immigration official. Lots of reasons, but here are some: it suggests that only truly evil fascists behave like this, whereas we know that totally 'average' people get drawn into behaving like this; I doubt very young people will know who Hitler is, and I don't think this is a good way of teaching them; in the radical Jewish education project I was part of, we had endless discussions about what age to teach our kids about the Holocaust, and we came to the conclusion the answer was 'relatively old'; it trivialises the enormity of the crimes Hitler perpetrated.

I'm so glad this whole radical childcare project is taking off so energetically.

All the best, Gail


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: emel kahraman 
  To: jonathan_waters7 at yahoo.co.uk ; radical_childcare at lists.aktivix.org 
  Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 2:43 PM
  Subject: [Radical_childcare] CAIC and three billy goats gruff


        hey everyone,

        when jon sent the email about the campaign against immigration gathering i remembered puppet play (an adaptation of three billy goats gruff)  a friend from norway mentioned, where goats are the migrants and troll the immigration control and asked him if he can send me a script of some sort to see if we can use it on saturday

        he sent the story only half an hour ago... so not much time to get ready for it properly, but i still think its worthwhile doing it, so what if we try to form a kids collective who can work on it and maybe interested adults, and stage it at another gathering, if you are up for it maybe whoever is gonna be there spread the word on saturday, maybe put a notice up ext


        maybe the project can evolve into forming a group meeting up regularly to discuss related topics and make stuff and then stage it

        just realized if it sounds too much of a project to advertise on saturday and ppl would like to talk about it more in detail before going for it thats totally fine coz i only though about it as im writing now

        here is the summery from my friends email:


        ok, 

        so, hitler tells the story, and says that the first forigner smells like "tea and biscuits"
        the troll asks "who is stepping on my bridge", and after the response from the english goat says "the scent is known and the color is dear, come in to my country and make your living here"

        so the same also happens to the dutch goat which hitler says smells like "green grass"

        then the pakistani goat comes which hitler says smells like kebab. the goat asks to cross the border but the troll thinks "this smells like kebab & curry, I only want [insert norwegian traditional dishes/stuff here]"

        then they fight and it ends with the pakistani goat lifting his wool to reveal that he's strapped with dynamite, and he blows himself and the troll to pieces -emel here well im not sure about blowing the poor goat, maybe the bridge and the troll :)-so that his family busload of goats can get over the bridge.

        --- On Thu, 6/11/09, jonathan_waters7 at yahoo.co.uk <jonathan_waters7 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


          From: jonathan_waters7 at yahoo.co.uk <jonathan_waters7 at yahoo.co.uk>
          Subject: [Radical_childcare] LARC update
          To: radical_childcare at lists.aktivix.org
          Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:58 AM


                Hi everyone,

                I got the following email today from a guy at LARC so it looks pretty positive in terms of getting a toybox there and using some space (probably in the basement) to store creche stuff.

                Next creche is 20th June at SOAS for the Campaign Against Immigration Controls gathering.  I'll be organising it and any volunteers would be gratefully received!  Maybe we could use it as a chance to start to develop some activities for kids that relate to our radical politics - any ideas on immigration related games or activities???

                Take care

                Jon



                Hi Jon,

                That sounds like a great idea. I'll just run it part the email list and
                get back to you.

                Cheers,

                Mark
                markb at gn.apc.org

                > Message:
                >
                > Name:     Jon Waters
                > Email Address:    jonathan_waters7 at yahoo.co.uk
                > Subject:  Radical Childcare Group
                > Message:  Hi,
                >
                > I'm a member of the newly formed radical childcare group (currently
                > without a proper name) and am writing to ask about storage space at LARC.
                > We'd really like to provide LARC with a small box of communal toys that
                > could be accessed by any groups using the space who have children with
                > them.
                >
                > We's also like to use a small amount of storage space in the basement to
                > store resources for the childcare that we provide to various groups and
                > events.  In the past members of the group have organised childcare for
                > Feminist Fightback conferences and meetings, helped create a kidspace on
                > Raven's Ait when it was squatted during the G20 and are organising a
                > creche later this month for a campaign Against Immigration Controls
                > gathering at SOAS.
                >
                > Please could you get back to me about these two ideas and let me know if I
                > need to submit a more formal proposal or bring it to a LARC meeting or
                > what.
                >
                > Many thanks
                >
                > Jon
               



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