[SSC] SSC Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2
David McAleavey
davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com
Mon Oct 1 21:38:23 UTC 2012
Dear All,
You might remember that I mentioned Sudbury Valley School (USA) during the
discussion we had after Michael Fielding's lecture last week.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/freedom-learn/200808/children-educate-themselves-iv-lessons-sudbury-valley
I think we can learn from this model.
Respectfully yours,
David
On 1 October 2012 21:09, <sarah at socialsciencecentre.org.uk> wrote:
> Wow, just saw Alan's nice podcast with Michael Fielding's talk...great!
> Thanks Alan.
>
> Sarah
>
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> > Gurbutt)
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> > > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 18:57:38 +0100
> > > From: Darryl Baker <baker
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> > To: "SSC at lists.aktivix.org"
> > <SSC at lists.aktivix.org>
> > Subject: [SSC] Meeting on Wednesday
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> > > Hi all I wish to convey my apologies for the next
> > meeting on Wednesday due to a long standing family commitment.
> >
> > > Darryl
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:38:27 +0100
> > > From: David McAleavey <davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com>
> > To: Alan Gurbutt <agurbutt at g
> > mail.com>
> > Cc: ssc <ssc at lis
> > ts.aktivix.org>
> > Subject: Re: [SSC] A busy week ahead.
> > > Message-ID:
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> > <CADx5COqu8AcFSL9zntD53K+KCtcVe7JMbSWY8V2cH7H4GBvUTg at mail.gmail
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> >
> > > Alan,
> > >
> > > What happened to your daughter last Thursday needs
> > to addressed separately.
> > At present, I am unable to express my
> > feelings.
> >
> > > I think our communication system has failed us again
> > - the meeting
> > scheduled for next Wednesday was agreed on (and
> > posted to the list, I
> > think) at the AGM (I think). A coffee at the Angel,
> > a pint in the Jolly
> > Brewer, a glass of wine over dinner at my place...
> > it's the opportunity for
> > dialogue, not the beverage, that counts.
> > >
> > > Apologies about the minutes, but they will be posted
> > asap.
> >
> > > I do not agree with selection full stop.
> > >
> > > If you let Steve have your details, I am confident
> > that your expenses will
> > be covered.
> > >
> > > Respectfully yours,
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 30 September 2012 18:46, Alan Gurbutt <agurbutt at g
> > mail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> Hi David,
> > >>
> > >> I have to say that I don't agree with you on
> > several counts and I know my
> >> comments are not at all relevant, if they were,
> > meetings would be consulted
> >> upon before being agreed. This is a rehash of
> > in-between meetings from last
> >> week. There are no minutes from
> > Saturday.
> >>
> > >> I agreed to take care of the website on Thursday
> > only to find out today a
> >> meeting is scheduled for Wednesday to discuss
> > its development. I'm not sure
> >> if I can afford to attend. If I am to attend I
> > would add communication to
> >> the agenda i.e., learning support. Will work be
> > eligible for travelling
> >> expenses?
> > >>
> > >> Another point is - and it was raised at Michael
> > Fielding's lecture - there
> >> is a disparity between community focused primary
> > schools and market driven
> >> higher education. I noted the commentator said
> > there were some exceptions
> >> to his positive experience with his primary
> > school, but it didn't go far
> >> enough. Purposely so.
> > >>
> > >> Michael Fielding was unaware of the continuation
> > of academic selection as
> >> young as 10 years old in Lincolnshire. Ok, I
> > could have spoken out, but I
> >> was concerned that talk of discrimination
> > wouldn't bode well with the
> >> purpose of SSC. I want to raise this
> > now.
> >>
> > >> What does one have to do in Lincolnshire to
> > become involved in democratic
> >> education? I won't join the Labour Party, so was
> > hoping for scope within
> >> SSC.
> > >>
> > >> To reiterate, there is no representation for
> > education on the Lincolnshire
> >> coast. CERD supported anti academies in Louth,
> > yet appear to have no
> >> appetite to discuss rejection by 11+. Why is
> > this? Furthermore, do you
> >> agree that children should be selected on
> > faith?
> >>
> > >> Just to add some context. From personal
> > experience, children on the
> >> coastal strip have been told in Y6 that if they
> > are naughty they will go to
> >> our all ability schools and academies (they are
> > not comprehensives),
> >> whereas, children who behave will go to grammar
> > school. This is
> >> Lincolnshire's worst kept secret.
> > >>
> > >> Back to the public lecture. I had a governor's
> > meeting on Thursday so had
> >> to decide whether to attend the lecture or to
> > honour my commitments at our
> >> school. The decision was taken out of my hands.
> > I had spent the morning in
> >> school discussing how to improve outcomes for
> > children with additional
> >> needs, but later that day my 12 year old
> > daughter returned home covered in
> >> spit. It was in her hair and on her coat. She
> > was deeply distraught and
> >> looked as though she felt violated. Grace has
> > also had to endure text
> >> messages from troubled pupils.
> > >>
> > >> I hate to admit it, but I don't think this would
> > have happened in a
> >> grammar school or faith based school. The type
> > of school my daughters
> >> attend is a byproduct of Lincolnshire's
> > selective system - which, appears
> >> to be supported by the DfE. This is not to say
> > teachers don't work bloody
> >> hard, but the odds are stacked against them.
> > Academic selection distorts
> >> school intakes, lowers self-esteem and
> > exacerbates austerity.
> >>
> > >> No, I don't want to think of SSC as a Greek /
> > Roman Symposium. To me this
> >> would further instil snobbery, Plato elitism,
> > already inherent in
> >> Lincolnshire education. I want to talk about
> > real-life social issues with
> >> people who are able to think
> > dialogically.
> >>
> > >> Alan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPad
> > >>
> > >> On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:57, David McAleavey <
> davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com>
> >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for this Steve.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for offering to chair on 20.10 (or 13.10,
> > if we rationalise - and
> >> Alan's comment is VERY relevant re: deciding
> > such things), and your
> >> enthusiasm for a SSC Symposium... if I remember
> > correctly, wine was also
> >> considered a vital ingredient!
> > >>
> > >> DM
> > >>
> > >> On 30 September 2012 10:08, STEPHEN HOPKINS
> > <hop
> > kins668 at btinternet.com>wrote:
> >>
> > >>> David and All
> > >>> I will be at the Angel Coffee House on
> > Tuesday but not at the business
> >>> meeting on Wednesday.
> > >>> Re the agenda for Wednesday - I'd be happy
> > to take the chair on the 20th
> >>> October - although I wonder about
> > rationalising a little and holding the
> >>> meeting scheduled for the 20th on the 13th
> > before/after the workshop if
> >>> this is going ahead. I'm just conscious of
> > peoples time.
> >>> The idea of a meal sound a great one.
> > Originally ( Greek and Roman ) a
> >>> Symposium was a meeting with intellectual
> > conversation following a meal.
> >>> Perhaps we need to hold our first Symposium
> > !
> >>> Steve
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > ------------------------------
> >>> *From:* David McAleavey <davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com>
> >>> *To:* ssc <ssc at lis
> > ts.aktivix.org>
> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, 30 September 2012,
> > 7:26
> >>>
> > >>> *Subject:* [SSC] A busy week
> > ahead.
> >>>
> > >>> Dear Alan and All,
> > >>>
> > >>> You will not be surprised to hear that I
> > would welcome the opportunity to
> >>> discuss the science, and creative potential,
> > of our evolved capacities for
> >>> social and individual learning... I'll get
> > the first coffees on Tuesday
> >>> Alan!
> > >>>
> > >>> Tuesday: Can all scholars (student and
> > teacher) raise their hand if they
> >>> will be joining us at the Angel Coffee House
> > at 6.00pm.
> >>>
> > >>> Wednesday: We have an organisational meeting
> > at Pathways scheduled to
> >>> start at 7.00pm
> > >>>
> > >>> Proposed agenda
> > >>>
> > >>> A new model for agenda setting/minute taking
> > (Zoraida and David)
> >>> Feedback on Michael's lecture
> > (David)
> >>> Feedback on 2nd October Angel (a student
> > scholar)
> >>> Decision making workshop proposal 13.10.2012
> > (Sara M.)
> >>> Our Purpose... I propose a meal.
> > (David)
> >>> Website development
> > >>> Sociological Imagination
> > >>> Creative Projects (2013)
> > >>> A chair for 20.10.12 (David and Sarah in
> > Liverpool)
> >>>
> > >>> Please let me have any other items for the
> > agenda.
> >>>
> > >>> Thursday
> > >>> Thanks again to Sarah, Zoraida and Mike for
> > facilitating this course, I
> >>> think we're all excited to see where our
> > individual - and collective
> >>> - imagination will lead us... which (kind
> > of) brings me back to my first
> >>> point. What sort of society can *we*
> > imagine? How can *we* contribute to
> >>> creating it?
> > >>>
> > >>> Respectfully yours,
> > >>>
> > >>> David
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > _______________________________________________
> >>> SSC mailing list
> > >>> SSC at lists.aktivix.org
> > >>> https://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/ssc
> >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > _______________________________________________
> >> SSC mailing list
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> > >> https://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/ssc
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> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 22:11:34 +0100
> > > From: Alan Gurbutt <agurbutt at g
> > mail.com>
> > To: David McAleavey <davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com>
> > Cc: ssc <ssc at lis
> > ts.aktivix.org>
> > Subject: Re: [SSC] A busy week ahead.
> > > Message-ID:
> > <C75337A9-571C-4A09-9DE5-BA8B3E0160DA at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > > Hi David,
> > >
> > > I agree that individual experiences need to be
> > addressed separately but wanted to explain the context behind Thursday's
> > options and variation in school experiences. The ethos behind Alex
> Bloom's
> > school, St George's in the East, could alleviate many of Mablethorpe's
> > problems but it would take a strong will. Academic selection in our area
> > has led to educational apartheid and community division. It's an
> elephant.
> > Glad we're on the same page.
> >
> > > Not sure about communications, particularly email.
> > It's obviously easier to be in Lincoln. It might help if members could
> > exchange phone numbers.
> >
> > > Best wishes
> > > Alan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On 30 Sep 2012, at 20:38, David McAleavey <
> davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> Alan,
> > >>
> > >> What happened to your daughter last Thursday
> > needs to addressed separately. At present, I am unable to express my
> > feelings.
> >>
> > >> I think our communication system has failed us
> > again - the meeting scheduled for next Wednesday was agreed on (and
> posted
> > to the list, I think) at the AGM (I think). A coffee at the Angel, a pint
> > in the Jolly Brewer, a glass of wine over dinner at my place... it's the
> > opportunity for dialogue, not the beverage, that counts.
> >>
> > >> Apologies about the minutes, but they will be
> > posted asap.
> >>
> > >> I do not agree with selection full
> > stop.
> >>
> > >> If you let Steve have your details, I am
> > confident that your expenses will be covered.
> >>
> > >> Respectfully yours,
> > >>
> > >> David
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 30 September 2012 18:46, Alan Gurbutt <agurbutt at g
> > mail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi David,
> > >>>
> > >>> I have to say that I don't agree with you on
> > several counts and I know my comments are not at all relevant, if they
> > were, meetings would be consulted upon before being agreed. This is a
> > rehash of in-between meetings from last week. There are no minutes from
> > Saturday.
> >>>
> > >>> I agreed to take care of the website on
> > Thursday only to find out today a meeting is scheduled for Wednesday to
> > discuss its development. I'm not sure if I can afford to attend. If I am
> to
> > attend I would add communication to the agenda i.e., learning support.
> Will
> > work be eligible for travelling expenses?
> >>>
> > >>> Another point is - and it was raised at
> > Michael Fielding's lecture - there is a disparity between community
> focused
> > primary schools and market driven higher education. I noted the
> commentator
> > said there were some exceptions to his positive experience with his
> primary
> > school, but it didn't go far enough. Purposely so.
> >>>
> > >>> Michael Fielding was unaware of the
> > continuation of academic selection as young as 10 years old in
> > Lincolnshire. Ok, I could have spoken out, but I was concerned that talk
> of
> > discrimination wouldn't bode well with the purpose of SSC. I want to
> raise
> > this now.
> >>>
> > >>> What does one have to do in Lincolnshire to
> > become involved in democratic education? I won't join the Labour Party,
> so
> > was hoping for scope within SSC.
> >>>
> > >>> To reiterate, there is no representation for
> > education on the Lincolnshire coast. CERD supported anti academies in
> > Louth, yet appear to have no appetite to discuss rejection by 11+. Why is
> > this? Furthermore, do you agree that children should be selected on
> > faith?
> >>>
> > >>> Just to add some context. From personal
> > experience, children on the coastal strip have been told in Y6 that if
> they
> > are naughty they will go to our all ability schools and academies (they
> are
> > not comprehensives), whereas, children who behave will go to grammar
> > school. This is Lincolnshire's worst kept secret.
> >>>
> > >>> Back to the public lecture. I had a
> > governor's meeting on Thursday so had to decide whether to attend the
> > lecture or to honour my commitments at our school. The decision was taken
> > out of my hands. I had spent the morning in school discussing how to
> > improve outcomes for children with additional needs, but later that day
> my
> > 12 year old daughter returned home covered in spit. It was in her hair
> and
> > on her coat. She was deeply distraught and looked as though she felt
> > violated. Grace has also had to endure text messages from troubled
> > pupils.
> >>>
> > >>> I hate to admit it, but I don't think this
> > would have happened in a grammar school or faith based school. The type
> of
> > school my daughters attend is a byproduct of Lincolnshire's selective
> > system - which, appears to be supported by the DfE. This is not to say
> > teachers don't work bloody hard, but the odds are stacked against them.
> > Academic selection distorts school intakes, lowers self-esteem and
> > exacerbates austerity.
> >>>
> > >>> No, I don't want to think of SSC as a Greek
> > / Roman Symposium. To me this would further instil snobbery, Plato
> elitism,
> > already inherent in Lincolnshire education. I want to talk about
> real-life
> > social issues with people who are able to think dialogically.
> >>>
> > >>> Alan
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPad
> > >>>
> > >>> On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:57, David McAleavey
> > <davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com> wrote:
> >>>
> > >>>> Thanks for this Steve.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks for offering to chair on 20.10
> > (or 13.10, if we rationalise - and Alan's comment is VERY relevant re:
> > deciding such things), and your enthusiasm for a SSC Symposium... if I
> > remember correctly, wine was also considered a vital
> > ingredient!
> >>>>
> > >>>> DM
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 30 September 2012 10:08, STEPHEN
> > HOPKINS <hop
> > kins668 at btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>>>> David and All
> > >>>>> I will be at the Angel Coffee House
> > on Tuesday but not at the business meeting on Wednesday.
> >>>>> Re the agenda for Wednesday - I'd be
> > happy to take the chair on the 20th October - although I wonder about
> > rationalising a little and holding the meeting scheduled for the 20th on
> > the 13th before/after the workshop if this is going ahead. I'm just
> > conscious of peoples time.
> >>>>> The idea of a meal sound a great
> > one. Originally ( Greek and Roman ) a Symposium was a meeting with
> > intellectual conversation following a meal. Perhaps we need to hold our
> > first Symposium !
> >>>>> Steve
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> From: David McAleavey <davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com>
> >>>>> To: ssc <ssc at lis
> > ts.aktivix.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012,
> > 7:26
> >>>>>
> > >>>>> Subject: [SSC] A busy week
> > ahead.
> >>>>>
> > >>>>> Dear Alan and All,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> You will not be surprised to hear
> > that I would welcome the opportunity to discuss the science, and creative
> > potential, of our evolved capacities for social and individual
> learning...
> > I'll get the first coffees on Tuesday Alan!
> >>>>>
> > >>>>> Tuesday: Can all scholars (student
> > and teacher) raise their hand if they will be joining us at the Angel
> > Coffee House at 6.00pm.
> >>>>>
> > >>>>> Wednesday: We have an organisational
> > meeting at Pathways scheduled to start at 7.00pm
> >>>>>
> > >>>>> Proposed agenda
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> A new model for agenda
> > setting/minute taking (Zoraida and David)
> >>>>> Feedback on Michael's lecture
> > (David)
> >>>>> Feedback on 2nd October Angel (a
> > student scholar)
> >>>>> Decision making workshop proposal
> > 13.10.2012 (Sara M.)
> >>>>> Our Purpose... I propose a meal.
> > (David)
> >>>>> Website development
> > >>>>> Sociological Imagination
> > >>>>> Creative Projects (2013)
> > >>>>> A chair for 20.10.12 (David and
> > Sarah in Liverpool)
> >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please let me have any other items
> > for the agenda.
> >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thursday
> > >>>>> Thanks again to Sarah, Zoraida and
> > Mike for facilitating this course, I think we're all excited to see where
> > our individual - and collective - imagination will lead us... which (kind
> > of) brings me back to my first point. What sort of society can we
> imagine?
> > How can we contribute to creating it?
> >>>>>
> > >>>>> Respectfully yours,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> David
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > _______________________________________________
> >>>>> SSC mailing list
> > >>>>> SSC at lists.aktivix.org
> > >>>>> https://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/ssc
> >>>>>
> > _______________________________________________
> >>>> SSC mailing list
> > >>>> SSC at lists.aktivix.org
> > >>>> https://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/ssc
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> > >
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SSC mailing list
> > > SSC at lists.aktivix.org
> > > https://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/ssc
> >>
> > >
> > > End of SSC Digest, Vol 21, Issue 27
> > > ***********************************
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 22:04:22 +0200
> > From: <sarah at socialsciencecentre.org.uk>
> To: <ssc at lis
> > ts.aktivix.org>
> Subject: Re: [SSC] SSC Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1
> > Message-ID: <50425.1349121862 at socialsciencecentre.org.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Many thanks for pulling all that together, David.
> >
> > Hi Lisa -- really sorry for any confusion. We need to update the website
> > fairly immediately. The Wednesday meeting is a bi-
> weekly 'organisational' meeting that we've been having regularly for ages;
> > there are dates for these on the website now that we agreed at
> the big AGM in the spring. The Social Science Imagination course is running
> > on Thursdays from 7-9 p.m. at Pathways Centre on Beaumont Fee,
> and there will be informal gatherings and workshops available on Tuesdays
> > or Wednesdays (e.g. one on the 17th on 'new ways of reading
> newspapers'). There are also some Saturday workshops that are planned.
> > We've only just got things really going, and there haven't been any
> meetings outside meetings, only a short lull in which we don't have anyone
> > looking after the website as diligently as we had before. I am
> trying to finish a huge amount of work this evening for tomorrow, but will
> > see if I can manage to do something with the online calendar
> tonight...otherwise, tomorrow, or someone can perhaps beat me to it!
> >
> > I agree with Alan that it would be great to get some online discussions
> > going of some of the texts that people have been recommending.
> Perhaps we can do that soon.
> >
> > I will be at Pathways for the Social Science Imagination meeting on
> > Thursday. I am teaching on Tuesdays until 6:00 p.m. so will not make all
> >
> of the informal gatherings. I will try to make the usual Wednesday
> > meeting.
> > Hi Jess -- as a matter of fact, I think we do know a couple people
> working
> > in Wales, though not sure whether North or South. Mike, do you
> remember who it was that we met in Bristol? I will try to recover the
> > names.
> > Wanted also to give a heads up and thanks to Megan, who has had some
> really
> > interesting suggestions and who I'd like to chat to soon.
> > In haste and looking forward to seeing other people on the course on
> > Thursday.
> > Best,
> > Sarah
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon 1/10/12 16:05, ssc-request at lists.aktivix.org wrote:
> > Send SSC mailing list submissions to
> > > ssc at lis
> > ts.aktivix.org
> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web,
> > visit
> > https://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/ssc
> >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > > ssc-request at lists.aktivix.org
> > You can reach the person managing the list
> > at
> > s
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> > > 1. South Wales links? (Jesse)
> > > 2. {Spam?} Launch of first Issue from 'gold' open
> > access
> > publisher Social Sciences Directory (Dan
> > Scott)
> > 3. Re: SSC Digest, Vol 21, Issue 27
> > (Ar_Kidda)
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> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:33:28 +0100
> > > From: Jesse <jess.aga
> > > in at gmail.com
> > >
> To: ssc at lis
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> > Subject: [SSC] South Wales links?
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> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I joined this list a while ago because I am very
> > interested in your
> > project and have considered variations on the theme
> > for a couple of
> > years now - mainly in the privacy of my own
> > head!
> >
> > > I am a Lit. & Cultural Theory PhD student, just
> > started at Cardiff
> > University, and would be interested to know if
> > anyone in this group
> > has contacts in S. Wales who might be interested to
> > start thinking
> > about a similar Cooperative Education Centre here -
> > I am new to area
> > so don't - although I'm working on it!
> > >
> > > I'd also love to hear from anyone who has some good
> > tips on the kind
> > of knowledge, people and skills needed to set this
> > kind of project up,
> > and how long it took your group to get the point of
> > being able to
> > launch the Centre.
> > >
> > > Many thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Jess Farr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 16:12:11 +0100
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> > Subject: [SSC] {Spam?} Launch of first Issue from 'gold' open access
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> > > Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:04:48 +0100
> > > From: Ar_Kidda <ar_kidda@
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> > To: ssc at lis
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> > Subject: Re: [SSC] SSC Digest, Vol 21, Issue 27
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> > > On 30/09/2012 22:11, ssc-request at lists.aktivix.org wrote:
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> > > > Today's Topics:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Meeting on Wednesday (Darryl
> > > Baker)
> > > 2. Re: A busy week ahead. (David
> > > McAleavey)
> > > 3. Re: A busy week ahead. (Alan
> > > Gurbutt)
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> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 18:57:38
> > +0100
> > > From: Darryl Baker <baker
> > > 402 at btinte
> > rnet.com>
> > To: "SSC at lists.aktivix.org"
> > > <SSC at lists.aktivix.org>
> > > Subject: [SSC] Meeting on Wednesday
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> > > > Hi all I wish to convey my apologies for the
> > next
> > meeting on Wednesday due to a long standing family
> > commitment.
> >
> > > > Darryl
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 2
> > > > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 20:38:27
> > +0100
> > > From: David McAleavey <davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com>
> > To: Alan Gurbutt <agurbutt at g
> > > mail.com>
> > > Cc: ssc <ssc at lis
> > ts.aktivix.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [SSC] A busy week ahead.
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > >
> > >
> > <CADx5COqu8AcFSL9zntD53K+KCtcVe7JMbSWY8V2cH7H4GBvUTg at mail.gmail
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> > .com>
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> > >
> > > > Alan,
> > > >
> > > > What happened to your daughter last Thursday
> > needs
> > to addressed separately.
> > > At present, I am unable to express my
> > > feelings.
> > >
> > > > I think our communication system has failed us
> > again
> > - the meeting
> > > scheduled for next Wednesday was agreed on
> > (and
> > posted to the list, I
> > > think) at the AGM (I think). A coffee at the
> > Angel,
> > a pint in the Jolly
> > > Brewer, a glass of wine over dinner at my
> > place...
> > it's the opportunity for
> > > dialogue, not the beverage, that counts.
> > > >
> > > > Apologies about the minutes, but they will be
> > posted
> > asap.
> > >
> > > > I do not agree with selection full
> > stop.
> > >
> > > > If you let Steve have your details, I am
> > confident
> > that your expenses will
> > > be covered.
> > > >
> > > > Respectfully yours,
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 30 September 2012 18:46, Alan Gurbutt
> > <agurbutt at g
> > mail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Hi David,
> > > >>
> > > >> I have to say that I don't agree with you
> > on
> > several counts and I know my
> > >> comments are not at all relevant, if they
> > were,
> > meetings would be consulted
> > >> upon before being agreed. This is a rehash
> > of
> > in-between meetings from last
> > >> week. There are no minutes from
> > > Saturday.
> > >>
> > > >> I agreed to take care of the website on
> > Thursday
> > only to find out today a
> > >> meeting is scheduled for Wednesday to
> > discuss
> > its development. I'm not sure
> > >> if I can afford to attend. If I am to attend
> > I
> > would add communication to
> > >> the agenda i.e., learning support. Will work
> > be
> > eligible for travelling
> > >> expenses?
> > > >>
> > > >> Another point is - and it was raised at
> > Michael
> > Fielding's lecture - there
> > >> is a disparity between community focused
> > primary
> > schools and market driven
> > >> higher education. I noted the commentator
> > said
> > there were some exceptions
> > >> to his positive experience with his
> > primary
> > school, but it didn't go far
> > >> enough. Purposely so.
> > > >>
> > > >> Michael Fielding was unaware of the
> > continuation
> > of academic selection as
> > >> young as 10 years old in Lincolnshire. Ok,
> > I
> > could have spoken out, but I
> > >> was concerned that talk of
> > discrimination
> > wouldn't bode well with the
> > >> purpose of SSC. I want to raise this
> > > now.
> > >>
> > > >> What does one have to do in Lincolnshire
> > to
> > become involved in democratic
> > >> education? I won't join the Labour Party, so
> > was
> > hoping for scope within
> > >> SSC.
> > > >>
> > > >> To reiterate, there is no representation
> > for
> > education on the Lincolnshire
> > >> coast. CERD supported anti academies in
> > Louth,
> > yet appear to have no
> > >> appetite to discuss rejection by 11+. Why
> > is
> > this? Furthermore, do you
> > >> agree that children should be selected
> > on
> > faith?
> > >>
> > > >> Just to add some context. From
> > personal
> > experience, children on the
> > >> coastal strip have been told in Y6 that if
> > they
> > are naughty they will go to
> > >> our all ability schools and academies (they
> > are
> > not comprehensives),
> > >> whereas, children who behave will go to
> > grammar
> > school. This is
> > >> Lincolnshire's worst kept secret.
> > > >>
> > > >> Back to the public lecture. I had a
> > governor's
> > meeting on Thursday so had
> > >> to decide whether to attend the lecture or
> > to
> > honour my commitments at our
> > >> school. The decision was taken out of my
> > hands.
> > I had spent the morning in
> > >> school discussing how to improve outcomes
> > for
> > children with additional
> > >> needs, but later that day my 12 year
> > old
> > daughter returned home covered in
> > >> spit. It was in her hair and on her coat.
> > She
> > was deeply distraught and
> > >> looked as though she felt violated. Grace
> > has
> > also had to endure text
> > >> messages from troubled pupils.
> > > >>
> > > >> I hate to admit it, but I don't think this
> > would
> > have happened in a
> > >> grammar school or faith based school. The
> > type
> > of school my daughters
> > >> attend is a byproduct of
> > Lincolnshire's
> > selective system - which, appears
> > >> to be supported by the DfE. This is not to
> > say
> > teachers don't work bloody
> > >> hard, but the odds are stacked against
> > them.
> > Academic selection distorts
> > >> school intakes, lowers self-esteem
> > and
> > exacerbates austerity.
> > >>
> > > >> No, I don't want to think of SSC as a Greek
> > /
> > Roman Symposium. To me this
> > >> would further instil snobbery, Plato
> > elitism,
> > already inherent in
> > >> Lincolnshire education. I want to talk
> > about
> > real-life social issues with
> > >> people who are able to think
> > > dialogically.
> > >>
> > > >> Alan
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from my iPad
> > > >>
> > > >> On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:57, David McAleavey
> > <davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com>
> >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for this Steve.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for offering to chair on 20.10 (or
> > 13.10,
> > if we rationalise - and
> > >> Alan's comment is VERY relevant re:
> > deciding
> > such things), and your
> > >> enthusiasm for a SSC Symposium... if I
> > remember
> > correctly, wine was also
> > >> considered a vital ingredient!
> > > >>
> > > >> DM
> > > >>
> > > >> On 30 September 2012 10:08, STEPHEN
> > HOPKINS
> > <hop
> > > kins66
> > 8 at btinternet.com>wrote:
> >>
> > > >>> David and All
> > > >>> I will be at the Angel Coffee House
> > on
> > Tuesday but not at the business
> > >>> meeting on Wednesday.
> > > >>> Re the agenda for Wednesday - I'd be
> > happy
> > to take the chair on the 20th
> > >>> October - although I wonder
> > about
> > rationalising a little and holding the
> > >>> meeting scheduled for the 20th on the
> > 13th
> > before/after the workshop if
> > >>> this is going ahead. I'm just conscious
> > of
> > peoples time.
> > >>> The idea of a meal sound a great
> > one.
> > Originally ( Greek and Roman ) a
> > >>> Symposium was a meeting with
> > intellectual
> > conversation following a meal.
> > >>> Perhaps we need to hold our first
> > Symposium
> > !
> > >>> Steve
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > ------------------------------
> > >>> *From:* David McAleavey <davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com>
> >>> *To:* ssc <ssc at lis
> > ts.aktivix.org>
> > >>> *Sent:* Sunday, 30 September
> > 2012,
> > 7:26
> > >>>
> > > >>> *Subject:* [SSC] A busy
> > week
> > ahead.
> > >>>
> > > >>> Dear Alan and All,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> You will not be surprised to hear that
> > I
> > would welcome the opportunity to
> > >>> discuss the science, and creative
> > potential,
> > of our evolved capacities for
> > >>> social and individual learning... I'll
> > get
> > the first coffees on Tuesday
> > >>> Alan!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Tuesday: Can all scholars (student
> > and
> > teacher) raise their hand if they
> > >>> will be joining us at the Angel Coffee
> > House
> > at 6.00pm.
> > >>>
> > > >>> Wednesday: We have an organisational
> > meeting
> > at Pathways scheduled to
> > >>> start at 7.00pm
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Proposed agenda
> > > >>>
> > > >>> A new model for agenda setting/minute
> > taking
> > (Zoraida and David)
> > >>> Feedback on Michael's lecture
> > > (David)
> > >>> Feedback on 2nd October Angel (a
> > student
> > scholar)
> > >>> Decision making workshop proposal
> > 13.10.2012
> > (Sara M.)
> > >>> Our Purpose... I propose a meal.
> > > (David)
> > >>> Website development
> > > >>> Sociological Imagination
> > > >>> Creative Projects (2013)
> > > >>> A chair for 20.10.12 (David and Sarah
> > in
> > Liverpool)
> > >>>
> > > >>> Please let me have any other items for
> > the
> > agenda.
> > >>>
> > > >>> Thursday
> > > >>> Thanks again to Sarah, Zoraida and Mike
> > for
> > facilitating this course, I
> > >>> think we're all excited to see where
> > our
> > individual - and collective
> > >>> - imagination will lead us... which
> > (kind
> > of) brings me back to my first
> > >>> point. What sort of society can
> > *we*
> > imagine? How can *we* contribute to
> > >>> creating it?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Respectfully yours,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> David
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> >>> SSC mailing list
> > > >>> SSC at lists.aktivix.org
> > > >>> https://lists.aktivix.org/mailman/listinfo/ssc
> >>>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > > > Message: 3
> > > > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 22:11:34
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> > > From: Alan Gurbutt <agurbutt at g
> > > mail.com>
> > > To: David McAleavey <davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com>
> > Cc: ssc <ssc at lis
> > ts.aktivix.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [SSC] A busy week ahead.
> > > > Message-ID:
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> > >
> > > > Hi David,
> > > >
> > > > I agree that individual experiences need to
> > be
> > addressed separately but wanted to explain the
> > context behind Thursday's
> > options and variation in school experiences. The
> > ethos behind Alex Bloom's
> > school, St George's in the East, could alleviate
> > many of Mablethorpe's
> > problems but it would take a strong will. Academic
> > selection in our area
> > has led to educational apartheid and community
> > division. It's an elephant.
> > Glad we're on the same page.
> > >
> > > > Not sure about communications, particularly
> > email.
> > It's obviously easier to be in Lincoln. It might
> > help if members could
> > exchange phone numbers.
> > >
> > > > Best wishes
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > >
> > > > On 30 Sep 2012, at 20:38, David McAleavey
> > <davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >> Alan,
> > > >>
> > > >> What happened to your daughter last
> > Thursday
> > needs to addressed separately. At present, I am
> > unable to express my
> > feelings.
> > >>
> > > >> I think our communication system has failed
> > us
> > again - the meeting scheduled for next Wednesday was
> > agreed on (and posted
> > to the list, I think) at the AGM (I think). A coffee
> > at the Angel, a pint
> > in the Jolly Brewer, a glass of wine over dinner at
> > my place... it's the
> > opportunity for dialogue, not the beverage, that
> > counts.
> >>
> > > >> Apologies about the minutes, but they will
> > be
> > posted asap.
> > >>
> > > >> I do not agree with selection
> > full
> > stop.
> > >>
> > > >> If you let Steve have your details, I
> > am
> > confident that your expenses will be
> > covered.
> >>
> > > >> Respectfully yours,
> > > >>
> > > >> David
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 30 September 2012 18:46, Alan Gurbutt
> > <agurbutt at g
> > mail.com> wrote:
> > >>> Hi David,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I have to say that I don't agree with
> > you on
> > several counts and I know my comments are not at all
> > relevant, if they
> > were, meetings would be consulted upon before being
> > agreed. This is a
> > rehash of in-between meetings from last week. There
> > are no minutes from
> > Saturday.
> > >>>
> > > >>> I agreed to take care of the website
> > on
> > Thursday only to find out today a meeting is
> > scheduled for Wednesday to
> > discuss its development. I'm not sure if I can
> > afford to attend. If I am to
> > attend I would add communication to the agenda i.e.,
> > learning support. Will
> > work be eligible for travelling
> > expenses?
> >>>
> > > >>> Another point is - and it was raised
> > at
> > Michael Fielding's lecture - there is a disparity
> > between community focused
> > primary schools and market driven higher education.
> > I noted the commentator
> > said there were some exceptions to his positive
> > experience with his primary
> > school, but it didn't go far enough. Purposely
> > so.
> >>>
> > > >>> Michael Fielding was unaware of
> > the
> > continuation of academic selection as young as 10
> > years old in
> > Lincolnshire. Ok, I could have spoken out, but I was
> > concerned that talk of
> > discrimination wouldn't bode well with the purpose
> > of SSC. I want to raise
> > this now.
> > >>>
> > > >>> What does one have to do in
> > Lincolnshire to
> > become involved in democratic education? I won't
> > join the Labour Party, so
> > was hoping for scope within SSC.
> > >>>
> > > >>> To reiterate, there is no
> > representation for
> > education on the Lincolnshire coast. CERD supported
> > anti academies in
> > Louth, yet appear to have no appetite to discuss
> > rejection by 11+. Why is
> > this? Furthermore, do you agree that children should
> > be selected on
> > faith?
> > >>>
> > > >>> Just to add some context. From
> > personal
> > experience, children on the coastal strip have been
> > told in Y6 that if they
> > are naughty they will go to our all ability schools
> > and academies (they are
> > not comprehensives), whereas, children who behave
> > will go to grammar
> > school. This is Lincolnshire's worst kept
> > secret.
> >>>
> > > >>> Back to the public lecture. I had
> > a
> > governor's meeting on Thursday so had to decide
> > whether to attend the
> > lecture or to honour my commitments at our school.
> > The decision was taken
> > out of my hands. I had spent the morning in school
> > discussing how to
> > improve outcomes for children with additional needs,
> > but later that day my
> > 12 year old daughter returned home covered in spit.
> > It was in her hair and
> > on her coat. She was deeply distraught and looked as
> > though she felt
> > violated. Grace has also had to endure text messages
> > from troubled
> > pupils.
> > >>>
> > > >>> I hate to admit it, but I don't think
> > this
> > would have happened in a grammar school or faith
> > based school. The type of
> > school my daughters attend is a byproduct of
> > Lincolnshire's selective
> > system - which, appears to be supported by the DfE.
> > This is not to say
> > teachers don't work bloody hard, but the odds are
> > stacked against them.
> > Academic selection distorts school intakes, lowers
> > self-esteem and
> > exacerbates austerity.
> > >>>
> > > >>> No, I don't want to think of SSC as a
> > Greek
> > / Roman Symposium. To me this would further instil
> > snobbery, Plato elitism,
> > already inherent in Lincolnshire education. I want
> > to talk about real-life
> > social issues with people who are able to think
> > dialogically.
> >>>
> > > >>> Alan
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Sent from my iPad
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:57, David
> > McAleavey
> > <davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com> wrote:
> >>>
> > > >>>> Thanks for this Steve.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Thanks for offering to chair on
> > 20.10
> > (or 13.10, if we rationalise - and Alan's comment is
> > VERY relevant re:
> > deciding such things), and your enthusiasm for a SSC
> > Symposium... if I
> > remember correctly, wine was also considered a
> > vital
> > ingredient!
> > >>>>
> > > >>>> DM
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 30 September 2012 10:08,
> > STEPHEN
> > HOPKINS <hop
> > > kins66
> > 8 at btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>>>> David and All
> > > >>>>> I will be at the Angel Coffee
> > House
> > on Tuesday but not at the business meeting on
> > Wednesday.
> >>>>> Re the agenda for Wednesday - I'd
> > be
> > happy to take the chair on the 20th October -
> > although I wonder about
> > rationalising a little and holding the meeting
> > scheduled for the 20th on
> > the 13th before/after the workshop if this is going
> > ahead. I'm just
> > conscious of peoples time.
> > >>>>> The idea of a meal sound a
> > great
> > one. Originally ( Greek and Roman ) a Symposium was
> > a meeting with
> > intellectual conversation following a meal. Perhaps
> > we need to hold our
> > first Symposium !
> > >>>>> Steve
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> From: David McAleavey <davidmcaleavey at virginmedia.com>
> >>>>> To: ssc <ssc at lis
> > ts.aktivix.org>
> > >>>>> Sent: Sunday, 30 September
> > 2012,
> > 7:26
> > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Subject: [SSC] A busy
> > week
> > ahead.
> > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Dear Alan and All,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> You will not be surprised to
> > hear
> > that I would welcome the opportunity to discuss the
> > science, and creative
> > potential, of our evolved capacities for social and
> > individual learning...
> > I'll get the first coffees on Tuesday
> > Alan!
> >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Tuesday: Can all scholars
> > (student
> > and teacher) raise their hand if they will be
> > joining us at the Angel
> > Coffee House at 6.00pm.
> > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Wednesday: We have an
> > organisational
> > meeting at Pathways scheduled to start at
> > 7.00pm
> >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Proposed agenda
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> A new model for
> > agenda
> > setting/minute taking (Zoraida and
> > David)
> >>>>> Feedback on Michael's
> > lecture
> > (David)
> > >>>>> Feedback on 2nd October Angel
> > (a
> > student scholar)
> > >>>>> Decision making workshop
> > proposal
> > 13.10.2012 (Sara M.)
> > >>>>> Our Purpose... I propose a
> > meal.
> > (David)
> > >>>>> Website development
> > > >>>>> Sociological
> > Imagination
> > >>>>> Creative Projects
> > (2013)
> > >>>>> A chair for 20.10.12 (David
> > and
> > Sarah in Liverpool)
> > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Please let me have any other
> > items
> > for the agenda.
> > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thursday
> > > >>>>> Thanks again to Sarah, Zoraida
> > and
> > Mike for facilitating this course, I think we're all
> > excited to see where
> > our individual - and collective - imagination will
> > lead us... which (kind
> > of) brings me back to my first point. What sort of
> > society can we imagine?
> > How can we contribute to creating it?
> > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Respectfully yours,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> David
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > >
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> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > As some of you know, I've only recently joined the
> > SCC and at the moment
> >
> > I am very confused indeed.
> > >
> > > According to the SSC Website, the meetings this week
> > are on Wednesday
> > (Pathways). However, this mailing list mentions
> > meetings on Tuesdays,
> > Wednesdays and Thursdays of this week. I can only
> > attend one of these,
> >
> > so can anyone elaborate on what these meetings are for?
> > >
> > > Many thanks,
> > > Lisa White
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