[Ssf] Re: swp:local social forums have failed

[noone noone]

  The issue with the swp is that on one hand i hear people saying that they 
are an irrelevence (which i beleive they are) and on the other i hear 
peoplem often the same people saying that they are a threat to our movement. 
  If we concentrate on the issues that effect people at the grass roots 
level then we can brush the swp aside, there is no need for back biting.

  The far more important things are things like the BNP etc... and i feel 
that slagging off the swp will do us no favours.  I realise that I have been 
absent from the ssf meetings for a while, this is because i have spent time 
trying to sort out my personal life and hopefully in the new year things 
will change and i will be back in gear.

  Nick Griffin moving into my backyard (not literally!) is clearly a 
divisive move by the state and is a means of keeping david blunkett elected 
to carry on his ways.  As seen here: 
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/sheffield/2004/12/302444.html
Feeling is now clearly moving away from blunket who has spat on his roots 
and by moving nick griffin into brightside any campaign to oust david 
blunket will be shelved in exchange for an anti-bnp campaign.  The only way 
to deal with this that i can see is to prevent nick griffin from standing 
and therefore leave the way open for an anti-blunket campaign without the 
accusation of "splitting the anti-fascist vote".

from
cuthbert

P.S. latest news david blunket resigned: 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4099581.stm
P.P.S.I send my apologise for the next ssf meeting i have a special meal i 
need to go to - but in the new year i will be back (i promise!).


>From: worldwarfree at riseup.net
>To: noone noone <machinevman at hotmail.com>
>CC: ssf at lists.aktivix.org
>Subject: RE: [Ssf] Re: swp:local social forums have failed
>Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 06:16:04 -0800
>
>
>
>I don't know why everyone get's so prepccupied with them, there are far 
>more
>important things to think about, theres no need to get so wound up about 
>the
>swp - it just increases the blood pressure.
>
>cuthbert
>
>yes i agree.. however there are very serious resons as to why we need real
>demcratic politics see
>http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/sheffield/2004/12/302779.html
>the swp acting in the manner they are is doing what the job of the bnp.. 
>there
>are thousands of people pissed of disillusioned angry at this government.. 
>you
>need only ask danny who is on the from line of all this.. you need only see 
>the
>events at the purple bar last weekend and the way the state use the anger 
>we
>feel against us and increase there omnipresent state.. you need see how 
>blair
>has come to sheffield and no real protest.. i have spent a year repairing 
>the
>bridges i have burned and working with the swp because i see a class of 
>people
>in real crises.. this proves itself with the increased violance such 
>community
>are faceing.. instead of looking at the real social problems as to why this
>violance happens.. this goverment commit mass murder in iraq.. then impose
>totalitarian laws upon its people.. such times make the rise of the bnp 
>easy..
>the sectarianism of the swp dose likewise.. i know in consideration my 
>politics
>are far more radical than most people.. likewise my understanding.. this is
>brother cuthbert this debate is healthy because by exposeing them we 
>isolate
>them and isolating them we can get on with the real job.. do not just shout
>comments from the side.. i understand the matters of spital hill are 
>important
>so you are eleswhere.. but when you have time come and participate in the 
>sf
>project.. i'm walking this path with ease and time.. because i give a real 
>shit
>as to what is happening.. i see a project like the sf an important part of 
>this
>revolution..
>
>mozaz..
>
>ps i have been told i have hep c and now been offerd medical treatment at 
>long
>last so if i can do it so can you hay mr c?

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