[blag-whereto] shutdown/removal of blag vm
poordog
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Thu Sep 26 21:03:23 UTC 2013
I just joined the mailing list and I'm not sure how to reply properly. I
intend to reply to the thread titled "Re: [blag-whereto]
shutdown/removal of blag vm" so feel free to move or delete this message
if it gets posted to a new thread.
I previously sent a message to this thread but it didn't get posted
because I wasn't a registered member. I essentially said that I would be
disappointed to see this project shut down completely. I am not a
developer but I am interested in supporting blag with whatever limited
skills that I can offer. I think that this would be a great opportunity
to learn about the development of a distro, and I would feel nice
knowing that I'm contributing to a free software project such as this one.
I'm trying my best to learn about coding and development in whatever
little free time I have, so maybe I can contribute more down the line,
provided the servers don't get shut down. Moreover, it still appears
that there are newcomers like me who are interested in blag - someone
dropped in the IRC channel to ask some questions about blag because he
was interested in installing it on an older computer. I've mostly only
seen junichiro in IRC and sometimes genpashiro, but I'm glad that
veganix, vladomiro, and some others having been stopping by to chat as
of late. Hopefully the discussion and interest will be sustained so that
regular development can be picked up again.
On 09/26/2013 04:08 PM, vladimirpunk at radiomexico.com wrote:
> Sorry, I made a mistake and only send it to Alexandre, I resend it.
> Well, this is the begining, at least we are discussing who are in and
> what we are able to do, I will just add a question according to what
> Alexandre says, the security problems are derivated of the unmaintened
> distribution, so if we come with a new one they will dissapear, or are
> derivated of fedora versions? I've got problems to conect to irc
> channel, but right now I in it.
>
> We are in the way, let's keep on going.
>
> Vladimir (vladomiro)
>
>
> ----- Mensaje original -----
> De:
> Alexandre Oliva <lxoliva at fsfla.org <mailto:lxoliva at fsfla.org>>
>
> Para:
> "tristan" <pinmaritim at riseup.net <mailto:pinmaritim at riseup.net>>
> Cc:
>
> Enviado:
> Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:08:57 -0300
> Asunto:
> Re: [blag-whereto] shutdown/removal of blag vm
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2013, tristan wrote:
>
> > i don't understand;you seem to have no support from the FSF
> & Gnu-org.
> > Why?
>
> Why do you say that?
>
> We got all the support we asked for from the FSF and GNU.
>
> The only one uncomfortable with the current arrangement is myself,
> because as far as the FSF is concerned, I'm the contact point
> WRT that
> server, which makes me feel personally responsible for any
> harm that the
> FSF and the other projects hosted by it might suffer should
> our AFAICT
> insecure server be broken into.
>
> That, plus my perception that there's no maintenance work
> underway in
> the blag community, therefore no perspective that existing
> holes will be
> fixed with security updates or new releases, plus the feedback
> I got on
> our IRC channel that blag was effectively dead, made me
> discuss with the
> FSF what path to take, for there'd be no point in the FSF's
> lending
> computing resources and taking risks if nothing good for the free
> software movement is ever going to come out of it.
>
> Now, since there is clearly a community that cares about blag
> carrying
> on, I can hope out of this community something good for the
> movement
> *will* come out, and I'll be very glad to help make it happen.
>
> > what can we do ?as average users with no technical knowledge;
> > is it a question of finance?
> > or of mainteneers&developpers?servers?
>
> My feeling is that we need maintainers/developers; it seemed
> to me like
> BLAG was hopelessly abandoned by all former developers, and
> RMS even
> told me last time he tried to get more maint/developers for blag,
> nothing came out of it. Under that light, shutting down would seem
> reasonable, does it not? ;-)
>
> Anyway, I'm sure we need more maintainers and developers, and
> if we
> can't get that with community action (say, sufficiently caring
> user
> becoming maintainers or enlisting other volunteers to do so
> ;-), maybe
> trying to crowdfund a paid position is something we could
> consider, if
> we can find someone who would like to do the job but couldn't
> do it well
> without such financial support.
>
> > if Blag dissapears i would be very unhappy with the Gnu-org
> > & the Fsf,considering that they have not defended such a
> great project.
>
> I'm sorry that you felt that way; I hope you now agree that it
> was a
> misperception. I don't see a wish in GNU or in the FSF that
> BLAG will
> go away (quite the opposite), but ultimately it is our collective
> responsibility to keep it alive. Let's make it so!
>
> --
> Alexandre Oliva, freedom fighter http://FSFLA.org/~lxoliva/
> <http://FSFLA.org/%7Elxoliva/>
> You must be the change you wish to see in the world. -- Gandhi
> Be Free! -- http://FSFLA.org/ FSF Latin America board member
> Free Software Evangelist Red Hat Brazil Compiler Engineer
>
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